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hi miles - I play trumpet and have had good success with two things: hardware: roland cp-40 (old, but sometimes they show up on ebay) software: widisoft (www.widisoft.com) makes VST and AU for realtime pitch->midi, with control over sensitivity and polyphony. There demo is usable (although will cut out every so often if unregistered). If you go that route let me know and I'll tell you how I got it to play with Ableton cheers, craig On Jun 15, 2007, at 11:20 PM, miles ward wrote: > Yeah baby, i'm already doin that, i'm switching to a macbook pro to > see if I can do it real time with less delay :) > > On 6/15/07, Doug Cox <uncledig@gmail.com> wrote: >> just a thought - you could always pitch shift your loops post- >> recording >> inside of ableton using one of the gazillion free VST pitch shifters. >> SpectralMonkeyage or Choptich (from our own Matthias Grob!) would >> be my >> first recommendations. >>