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Hi Per First of all thanks again for sharing your knowledge.... So i have got augustus and live running....augustus as sync master for live. And with this the problem of synchronization is solved. But the Augustus Freeze Loop button gets me nuts. Because I have to hit it at the exact point where the loop begins. Is there anyway around this? > You could read up on SooperLooper as well. Maybe that one suits > your needs better? It can run many parallel loops in sync. But it > cant act as the Sync Master for Live, but if you don't want to use > any tempo dependent effects of Live's that shouldn't be a problem. > Another host, that I like better, is Bidule. It can be used as a > simple host but it also has all kind of building objects all the > down to strict math for those who want to bild their own processing > units. The reason I prefer Bidule rather than Max is that the > interface is based on musical time (tempo, note duration etc) > rather than absolute time (milliseconds). As you advice i am studying SooperLooper. But I hanven't found out a way to have the output of each lop on sooperlooper in diferent live tracks. Could you help me out on this one? Cheers! Ana ( on my way to live-loop) On Aug 20, 2007, at 8:57 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Ableton Live is not very accurate when in the Sync Slave position > because it applies a bit of rounding to the incoming tempo. That's > why Augustus Loop has this setting "Rounding tempos for Live" that > you should activate. On the rare occasions I loop with Augustus > under Live I use to run two loopers in parallel and ususally they > stay in sync well, one being the Sync Master for the host LIve as > well as the other Augustus Loop looper. If I do a lot of REverse or > changing of the Beat Devisor one looper might slip a quarter note > or so but then I bring it back into the music by some Revers > fiddling or simply kick Tap Record and redo the loops right on the > spot. > > There are two concepts of looping in Augustus. Either you keep the > input all up and activate Freeze Loop when you don't want the loop > to layer the incoming signal or you keep selected the Punch In and > PUnch Out buttons to do all substituting Redord that is also > quantized. Or you combine both methods. > > In live you can set up MIDI Clips that send the commands into > Augustus Loop and trig those MIDI Clips from external MIDI foot > pedals. YOu can also assign the MIDI foot pedals directly to the > Augustus' parameters or do a combination. Regard "having Live and > Augustus Loop" as the starting point from where you may design your > own looping system. > > I think Live/Augustus is nice for music that gain from a loose > timing and I find it very fun to play for a "glitchy and > experimental sound", although I prefer the looper Mobius > (unfortunately it runs under Windows, but now that's not a big > problem for todays' intel Macs that can boot Win as well by the > BootCamp utility). An improtant feature that i miss in all Mac > loopers of today is the Next Loop and Previous Loop function. I > like to work with five alternative loops on two, or more, parallel > tracks and then jump between these loops to simultaneously build up > and change up to five "song parts". To do that with Augustus or > SooperLooper you need to open a new instance of the looper plug-in > for every loop and that means almost as much fiddling on the > computer as if you would use Max/msp, Bidule or PD construct a > custom looper from scratch ;-)) > > You could read up on SooperLooper as well. Maybe that one suits > your needs better? It can run many parallel loops in sync. But it > cant act as the Sync Master for Live, but if you don't want to use > any tempo dependent effects of Live's that shouldn't be a problem. > Another host, that I like better, is Bidule. It can be used as a > simple host but it also has all kind of building objects all the > down to strict math for those who want to bild their own processing > units. The reason I prefer Bidule rather than Max is that the > interface is based on musical time (tempo, note duration etc) > rather than absolute time (milliseconds). > > per > > > On 20 aug 2007, at 01.34, jnd wrote: > >> Hi >> >> Thanks again Per for your advices...i managed to establish >> midiclock sync between Augustus and Live. >> But I could not achieve the goal of recording the following loops >> in sync with the first one. >> What i am doing wrong? >> Can you explain me step by step? Idiot proof style.... >> This is becoming frustrating....i always thought that preparing a >> live looping setup on ableton live....would be a more >> straightfoward thing. But it seems almost impossible... >> >> Thanks again Peri for your help....and anyone else willing to >> share the secret of how to live loop with ableton live. >> >> Ana >> >> >> On Aug 18, 2007, at 7:46 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >>> On 18 aug 2007, at 20.20, jnd wrote: >>> >>>> Hi again Per ... >>>> >>>> Thanks...i downloaded the Augustus plug-in. But i can't follow >>>> your instructions : / ... how do i set the plug-in to send his >>>> tempo as a midiclock? >>> >>> 1. Open the plug-in's GUI. >>> 2. Click the "About/Register" button. >>> 3. Select the "MIDI output" box. >>> 4. Either save your host and launch Live again or delete the plug- >>> in from the plug-in slot and open a new instance of it. This is >>> for the change to take effect. >>> >>> Augustus Loop now opens a virtual MIDI Port that is named >>> "Augustus Loop 1" by Ableton Live's MIDI/sync preferences. If you >>> open a second plug-in, on another Live track, it will show up as >>> "Augustus Loop 2". You should only use the first one as the Sync >>> Master though, so be sure to activate the green Host Tempo button >>> in the plug-in's GUI. >>> >>>> Greetings from Portugal >>> >>> Cool! I've been to Lisboa a couple of times and once lived four >>> months on Kap Verde (former Portuguese colony and still very >>> influenced, the vibe somewhere between Portugal and Africa) >>> >>> Greetings from Sweden >>> > >