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also, when you change the tempo, the band might interact with that, too. so you might end up in an interaction loop with everybody trying to catch the other's tempo... i had good results with tapping the repeater's tap tempo button. awkward finger position for tapping, though. when i used ableton live on stage, i would trigger stop and start with a little keyboard. like: hitting stop on the 4+ and stop on the 1. that worked really well. tilmann >> I had another trick in mind, but I don't know if it works: >> Sort of slowing down, speeding up the loop until you are in sync with >the >> group. Don't know if you just need practice to get there or if it is >too >> difficult.