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> if there was only someone outhere that would take it > into his own and do upgrades for the RC-50(like Bob > sellon did witth lexicons jaman) this could be an > amazing floor looper...its too bad so many promising > devices get left out unfinished! I agree. The point is that Roland/Boss have all the technology on the shelve. For example: perfect pitch transposing/time stretching can be found in the Roland Varios and V-Synth (I own one). Boss DD-20: excellent delay's with feedback control. If they would add that to the RC-50. Price tag: the current RC-50 costs $500, so $600-700 for an enhanced version should be possible imo :) > from what ive read so far so far the following are > missing or are proving disatisfactory: > feedback > Pitch transposing > time stretching > replace > sync fix > multiple loops playing at once > next loop > multiple undo > multiply > cut and paste Little correction: it has a replace function. Feedback and multiply can be done using the aux-in, you can play multiple loops at once, synced or unsynced, different loop lengths. Btw: I don't consider all these options as "necessary", I could live without multiple undo, cut and paste Sjaak --- Scarlet One, ADSL 6 Mbps + Telefonie, vanaf EUR 29,95... http://www.scarlet.be/