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who told this story about IInd world war scientists gathering some military big shots to present a looping machine for radio personnell to hear and recheck their messages to the pilots? after the presentation started, somebody laughed. to the amusement of the crowd, the laughter got repeated, somebody found that funny and laughed, which got recorded, etc, finally resulting in the whole room to break up in laughter until somebody had to stop the machine. they buried the loopmachine - too diverting, probably. was it oliver sacks? or paul watzlawick? tilmann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Peters" <mp@mpeters.de> To: "Loopers Delight" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 5:53 PM Subject: RE: How far does looping go back? Farther than you think.... in the mid-eighties, a historic water reservoir building in Cologne, Germany was pumped empty, and opened to the public for a short time before it was flooded again. It was a huge rectangular basement hall with columns, not looking very spectacular, but the reverb was truly mindblowing - about 45 seconds. (Yes, reverb is not the same as echo but maybe it is interesting anyway) In the short time of its opening, the hall saw dance performances and recordings of various musiicians. A long out of print double LP called "Vor der Flut" (Before the Flood) contained performances of C.Bauer, Butz Dähn, Heiner Goebbels, Michael Köhler, Joe Koinzer, Roberto Laneri, Pauline Oliveros, Saxophon Mafia, Helmut Scherner, Büdi Siebert, Trio Basso Köln. -Michael www.michaelpeters.de