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Thanks Scott, I may have to check out an rp150, the price certainly is right though it's kinda big. Wonder if it uses the same engine as the Whammy? I like everything on table top too, except for punch-in pedals and volume. If I could rigup a remote bypass it could almost fit the bill. Why is it, actually, that there are plenty of analog octave-down effects, but octave-ups are always of the Octavia fuzz type? Even Zvex's Jonny Octave, which purports to be clean, is pretty damn distorted, judging from the clips on their site. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > a cheap option is the digitech rp150 unit (which is the upgrade of > the old rp100-both of which i've had). > the unit is cheap-100$, and has its +/- 's but for whammying i like > the rp150. what i like is that the digitech rp150 can be on my table > top (where i keep all my effects- i like them in hand range)--and it > allows passive volume pedal to be on floor to use as whammy or > volume pedal-(my rogue pedal is iffy at times on this, was great > when it was new)-or wah pedal (i actually like the wah sound, my old > dunlap pedal never sounded great, but many don't like the digital > wahs). > but i think the rp150 units is very good for the whammy sounds > (think morello, et al who've used it), much cheaper than the > standard unit-the standard unit probably has some ups to it (metal > and all), but i think the rp unit is decent for what it does, and > hey, it does have 5 sec of delay on it, which i use a lot lately... > s---