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RE: AW: The Eye is as Quick as The Hand




> There's a big difference between this video and Mir-O: Mir-O does it
> realtime and without studio processing. Period. He can do it live.

I must stick up for Mr Ford here, I saw him at a live in-store last year and he CAN to it live, indeed he did, with a couple of rc-20s and a multifx as i can recall.
overall I thought his loops, while simple from a loopers point of view (someone who is interested IN the loop), formed a very useful and usable backdrop to lay the rest of his song over.
 
 
> David Ford has the big advantage over most of us (including e.g. Reyn
> Ouwenhand, whose EDP video is, to me, far more impressing) because he plays
> a song with lyrics, and, to paraphrase David Byrne, lyrics are used to make
> people listen to pop songs longer than they would ordinarily do.

I don't really get the "advantge-either/or" dichotomy going on here,I don't think artists get an automatic leg up based on lyrical content. lyrics are of an advantage in terms of pop  but that does not make them "advantagious"  per se,indeed in genres such as Post Rock they would be a very dificult element to use, however within his own chosen field I feel his lyrics are the main "Point" of his works...the music and loops and such just help create an interesting route to delivery. if David Bryne was saying that a taking a regular pop song and stripping out the lyrics would make it less interesting I would agree but see the whole comment as a no-brainer because it rather misses the point of why the artist would opperate in that method of music making in the first place.
 
> Rick: what is in this performance of David Ford that e.g. aforementioned
> Reyn does not have - except for the lead vocals? I've never heard you rave
> on about such banal kind of music.
 
Sorry if im picking this appart too much, Im just interested in the motivations behind the post...why would you expect Rick to pick Ryen OR David Ford? why would you? both seem to be doing a great job of the thing they do to my ears. 
Again,Im sorry if this seems like an over the top reconstruction of your post, I just find an awful lot of pleasure listening to this "Banal" form of music.Yes it has been done before, but Im not looking for a "difinitive article" I enjoy listening to well thought out contemplative works in many genres even the more-travelled paths. I feel there is a tendency on this list to sometimes give more weight to technical and musical-gymnastic skills and obscureness then to works that have less high-art ambitions.
 
just my £2 (inflation)
Phill


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