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hi Aaron Don't know if you got my earlier reply (which went to the list) Please keep in mind that it's easier to help if you take time to write out all the relevant details in a clear and unambiguous way. :-) then we can help you quicker. It's not easy to diagnose by email, unless there's a full description of what's going on with your gear. Unfortunately, there's no way to tell from your description whether there's a fault in the midi connection, whether it's the lead, the drum machine or the edp . First thing to check is that all your midi connections are into the correct sockets (my most common mistake :-) >From what you say, it looks like you had a midi cable running from the >computer midi interface midi-Out to the edp Midi-In and were able to sync correctly. If that's the case (and if you're still using the same midi cable) then it's pretty likely that you're Midi cable is ok, and the edp is working correctly. You might like to reconnect that configuration again to check that the midi cable hasn't failed since then. There's 2 ways to sync edp *with* a drum machine. The edp can be master or slave. I assumed from your previous post that the edp was slave, but can't be sure. If you tell us which way then we can make further diagnosis. If one way won't work for you, possibly the other will and save your hide at the gig. If the edp is syncing correctly it will display the loop time. It may take a couple of cycles for it to do that. That must be what happens when you sync to the computer. ...but does it happen with the drums????? Is the edp displaying looptime?? NO>>> midi connection bad YES>> likely drum machine is not holding it's tempo, or a slim chance that the midi cable is has an intermittent fault If edp is master, then set Sync=Out hope that helps andy butler Aaron Austin wrote: > I have an upcoming show and would really like to sync my echoplex > digital pro plus with a Dr. Rythym drum machine and i cannot figure how > to run it smoothly i have the sync set to IN, and the Quantize set to > 8ths, and the 8ths cycle set to 16ths. But it always after about a > minute or so begins to fall apart and sound horrible i can sync to my > computer just fine and stay in rythym but the drum machine never works > for long. Is it possibly a broken drum machine or broken echoplex or > even a bad midi cable i dont understand please help?