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hi Erdem, One really nice piano sound is to take a felt hammer, salvaged from a broken down piano, and rub it along the length of the string. This gets the string vibrating longitudinally, which is especially nice if the sus pedal is down. Just about any bit of wood rested on the strings can be nice too (as used by Keith Tippet) For more ideas, check out John Cage Prepared Piano (full details in score) or you might like this http://www.piranhaguitarbow.com/ Then there's the "andy butler special technique" which involves placing a thumb or finger on the string at one end, and removing it at just the right speed as the note is played. With a bit of practice, it sounds like the note is swelling in. that's enough from me, bet there's plenty of other great suggestions on list. andy butler Erdem Helvacioglu wrote: > > one more thing : what are the different material you use, attach, scrape > etc on your instruments? is there any specific material that you would > recommend for me to use on the guitar and piano? old californian license > plates work very well inside the piano by the way ( bill walker knows > what i mean :) > > best. > > Erdem Helvacioglu > www.erdemhelvacioglu.com <http://www.erdemhelvacioglu.com> > www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu ><http://www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu> > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *