Re: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptop...

[Dave <prog.music.freak@gmail.com>]

Harry,

My apologies for ever bringing it up. We disagree on how it happened. It does sound too crazy to have happened that way; that's one thing  they're counting on. All I can say is: look at the facts. Really. Look into them, more than watching a movie, more than getting news snippets or stuff from youtube. Engineers and physicists have said that the only way those building could fall thusly was a controlled demolition. There's a lot of physical, photographic and chemical evidence for this, as well as political. The setup for the demolition of these buildings would have to have taken place over weeks. Look into PNAC, and what they wanted to do, and what's been done since 9/11. They've carried out almost all of their agenda. They even said it would take a single unifying act to consolidate the people to back it, "like another Pearl Harbor". These people are Bush, Cheney and all of their little buddies who are making billions and billions of dollars off of this war on the backs of young men and women who deserve better than this from our govt. They're fucking killing our next generation for their personal profits...and it all started that day. I have no kids, and plan on keeping it that way, so I have the least invested here, and I can't let it lie.

I don't think the "pentagon plane" evaporated, either; I don't think there ever was a plane at the pentagon...

Again, forgive me for ever bringing it up.

Thanks,
Dave

On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 11:27 AM, <HarryEsq@aol.com> wrote:

All due respect, what does this have to do with music, looping or anything else relevant to this group?  Having lived through 9/11, in Manhattan, and watched the buildings as the north tower burned and the south tower was hit, having had friends who died, friends who had friends who died, clients who had large parts of their work force decimated, and watched people moving about the City with that death soot all over them, in a daze, I find this whole thing offensive.  Criticize Bush & Company for being clueless, or worse, but don't give them credit for coming up with this elaborate, insane plan to kill their own people to justify some political agenda.  I've stayed out of this until now but I have to wonder, do you conspiracy folk realize how insane this sounds?  Islamic fanatics with a political and economic desire to take over the planet, "get back" at the West and impose their version of reality on the rest of the world did this.  Bush, and the government of the United States, for all of the other issues you might rightly point to, did not do this.  For pete's sake, would you please get back to the things that bring us together and stop this divisive discussion?

 

With all due respect,

 

Harry

 

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In a message dated 8/3/2008 10:55:08 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, marksmartus@gmail.com writes:

Well, I haven't read much about 9/11 conspiracy theories so far, so I
don't have immediate replies for all these. My reaction to the way
this video is put together and to conspiracy theories in general is
EXTREME SKEPTICISM. The WTC controlled demolition hypothesis to me
seems utterly outrageous. A huge plane filled with jet fuel crashes
into a building creating a fire that burns above 2000 degrees F
(easily hot enough to soften steel...I used to work in a steel mill,
and heating it to this temp is plenty to soften it up for easy
milling) and the building is NOT supposed to collapse? That's hard for
me to buy. Plus trying to hide massive amounts of explosives in a
building without anyone noticing. The simpler explanation tends to be
the correct one (Occam's Razor).

But I will watch some more and do some more reading.

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