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Thanks to all of you who replied to my original message which I'm quoting again in parts to create the reference: > "Frankly, I'm getting tired of all that "I can feel the > difference" talk. > Either you're able to do it with a more compact setup, or you > should embrace the thought that you better take yourself and > your tube amp and stompbox setup to the retirement home." There are several statements mixed up in that paragraph, and not all of them clearly separated from each other or sufficiently explained. People here have replied to it in lots of different ways, so I'd like to make that more clear: 1. There is exactly one thing in a typical guitarist's signal chain which cannot by any means be modeled properly by digital modeling (be it within a computer or within an embedded DSP-based system like a Line6 POD or Vox Tonelab or Boss GT10 or whatever), and that is the actual input to the system ("the system" here being everything between your guitar and your audience). Obviously, also George understands that well as he said: > So in my current rig, I've been using a Universal Audio Solo 610 as a >tube DI. 2. Comparisons between the two candidates (which in this case has been digital modelling vs. tube amps) is most of the time not conducted in a way which holds any scientific value (read: double blind tests). Clearly, a test setup like > Bill is a completely different musician, however, and I can tell you that I've been with him in his garage trying out amp/tube modeller after amp/tube > modeller with cabinet simulators on the backside and then listened to him play the identical thing through small Fender and Vox vintage tube amps and the > difference is STUNNING! will NOT qualify here. 3. There is a lot of inflexibility with regard to their gear with many musicians - which looks well understandable for e.g. AC/DC who have been playing the exact same music for decades, but which is surprising for musicians which consider themselves as "innovative". 4. Know your setup and know your requirements. Especially if you're using a combination of lots of stompboxes and lots of powerful multi-fx and want to trim that down, this helps. You can either do some kind of formal analysis, or simply take notes while you're playing. If you identified the least-used devices, look if you can replace their functions with other devices already in the setup. Or see if it works if you play without them. I understand that most of you do not like that requirement engineering approach, as exemplified by this reply: > Did you mean...take it to the retirement home...NOW? Cuz that's kinda, like, ouch. Summarizing: Mainly, if you want to haul around huge crates of gear, feel free to do so, independently of whether you live in a retirement home or are touring the world. On the other hand, if you want or need to trim down your setup: the possibilities are (almost always) there, but may require some effort on your part. But please, if you don't know what you need, lack technical understanding, are filled with preconceptions and completely unflexible, then please don't blame technology. If somebody sees this (the items 1-4 above) as arrogant, then well okay: a certain level may look like arrogance from below, as they say. That being said, it wasn't my intention to personally attack or defame anyone here. Thanks for all your input, Rainer