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i dont think anybody is blaming technology itself,i think is just dissaproving of false advertisment which a lot of companies are profiting from,claiming tweed fenders,mesa boogies,fuzzboxes analog fuuzes univibes etc.all nicely packed in a micro light pocket plastic device to go straight into the P.A. All of them are well aware that nobody nowdays want to carry bulky equipment but want to sound like their idols,so they give you crappy loud presets so you get a hard on and think you bought the right stuff.Now,if you have been working on tone for 30 years like Bill and know how good something real sounds, offcourse you are going to have a hardtime downgrading just because is small and portable.If you dont know the difference and just play as a hobbist you are going to think guitarrist looking for the answer should not wine and retire. Guitar remains one of the most popular instrument and a lot of companies are there to make a buck while it lasts, making you think you are going to sound amazing live with a Pandora or Zoom G.2 or a plugin with great graphics of the old gear.(Thats not to say that that you couldnt sound good,a good musician could sound good with a ping pong ball)thats why i support Chris statement that "its virtual and its different" and thats why companies should probably stop naming the stuff after what they are trying to model and give it a different name because it aint gonna sound the same ever.(but then they wouldnt make a buck;-) bottom line remains how far we are willing to make the compromise of sound for comfort.But companies that are listening to critical professional musicians who know the difference (instead of hobbie ones) might make it possible someday for serious musicians to make that compromise. Luis > > Summarizing: Mainly, if you want to haul around huge crates > of gear, feel > free to do so, independently of whether you live in a > retirement home or are > touring the world. On the other hand, if you want or need > to trim down your > setup: the possibilities are (almost always) there, but may > require some > effort on your part. But please, if you don't know what > you need, lack > technical understanding, are filled with preconceptions and > completely > unflexible, then please don't blame technology. > > > If somebody sees this (the items 1-4 above) as arrogant, > then well okay: a > certain level may look like arrogance from below, as they > say. > > That being said, it wasn't my intention to personally > attack or defame > anyone here. > > Thanks for all your input, > > Rainer