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Welcome to the gang Mark, i have joined Mobius as well! All i can tell you is that Mobius is frightening,after playing with an EDP for so many years,having bought a second to use in stereo and still having drift problems this is like suddently having 8 new stereo ones all with new functions,and better sound quality! It has functions from the EDP,Repeater,Looperlative,DL4 and i think any ohter looper you can think of.I havent had any problems comanding it with my FCB1010,except for the begining which had to do with driver setup.If you have a good soundcard the sound is above any other looper!Like you i have to adapt to the multitrack mentality yet, although i could still use it almost exactly as the EDP with "more loops" only but that would defeat the purpose of exploring something new.I am also playing at the Y2k8 but i dont think i am ready to loop with it yet,my mono Gibosn EDP still feels like my old shoes comfortable and dependable;-) Jeff Larson and Per Boysen are amazingly helful so i highly recomend you joining the zone mobius yahoo groups. But i still love hardware,much sexier than stearing at a laptop and dealing with mouses,so if Matthias comes up with a new hardware stereo EDP with better sound quality upgradable and loop storage and new cool functions i am buying one! oh,and with his beautiful old logo offcourse;-) www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Tue, 9/30/08, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote: > From: mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> > Subject: Mobius first impressions... and questions. > To: "loopers-delight" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 12:59 PM > Hi guys, > > As many of you know from my previous rants aginst the > "laptop loopers" I am > a self proclaimed "hardware head" (its a medical > condition you know). > > But I thought I would write a few notes to the group > regarding my first > experiences of.. wait for it, wait for it.... MOBIUS!!! > > But first a raison d'être: I was going to be at Y2k8, > and perform. I was > planning a NEW IMPROVED streamlined flight friendly case, > empty of loopers > (that I could borrow en situ) but full of... well my stuff. > (synth modules, > joysticks, and pitchshiftin, bit crushing madness.) It was > then that it > happened, I considered it, for the first time... laptop... > gulp... and > mobius... > As some of you know I have had to cancel my trip and > performance, cos my > better half Hilde has been diagnosed with Cervical Cancer > and we have just > started her Radiation and Chemo therapy yesterday... some > things come before > looping guys. (and girls...go get them thar smear tests.. > don't walk... > run... ) > > Why have I always been against software, well it all stems > from a period > where I only produced music on computer, its was great... I > did 2 maybe > three great albums, using predominately Audio Mulch... I > was drawn in by the > wealth of possibilities, the infinate versions, radical mix > after radical > mix... I dreamt up instruments, then I created them, in > SynthEdit or > Reactor, I micro edited samples down at the sample level, > building sounds > from scratch, morphing one thing into another, I made > aleatoric systems that > played themselves getting their only data from weather > pressure data from an > alaskan website, I listened and recorded actual live police > radio from > Saracuse, it was a blast!!! > > But then I added up the amount of hours spent at a > computer. As a film-maker > as my dayjob, then coming home and using a computer for > fun... I was sat > there.. 18 hours a day, in front of the screen. > > So I went back to the (now dusty rack and modular synth) > and never looked > back... until now (Here comes the Mobius stuff for those > that thought this > was a Mobius review). > > I thought.. so what if I just had my guitar and a > laptop..(reintroducing the > guitar should keep it physical) and so for a mere 3 hours > last night I gave > it a go. > I was mightily impressed. > But not without some reservations. > > First-up I should say I couldnt get my FCB1010 to work with > it. I should say > that I will buy a PC lap and a decent sound/midi card when > I have completely > convinced myself, but for now I thought I would try it out > with my M audio > Ozone. Imagine my dismay when I went round the back of the > keyboard and > looked at "That other midi plug that should be midi > IN"... Oh no.. its > something called USB in... not a USB socket, but a midi > plug, not sure what > its for, but it aint midi IN... so no pedal power for > now... > > And I think THAT issue would probably solve all my > problems. As everyone > knows, you cant loop with a mouse click... impossible, but > I tried, oh and > this with the new mac version. I will get a PC do do this > eventually, so I > can run it inside Mulch (anyone using Mobius in Mulch > BTW... works?? or??) > > Sound quality was excellent, I think I probably have to > change the noise > floor setting, cos it was writing Overdubs every loop, even > though I wasnt > playing anything (that is the same as on the EDP right...? > Dont play, no > overdub??) > > I loved the fact that I could now SEE what was happening > with the overdub > layers, with the quantized up-coming commands. > > I was annoyed by the fact that one track stayed in Overdub > when I switched > to another... any need for that? > > And is it still recording into that first track while you > make a new track? > > So actually I DIDNT like that it had multiple tracks, I > could use ONE more > than the edp... so two... and I like that they are stereo, > but I found > myself going to new tracks all the time, like it was a > repeater, and that > makes a different kind of music... that is unweildy and > repetative, one that > you cant change in a moment cos everything is spread across > tracks... god 4 > tracks is too many on the Repeater for me!! > > None of the speed change or pitch shift things worked > (apart from the EDPish > hlfspeed, worked fine) but thats probably a mac version > port thing-soon to > be fixed. > > It distorted quite easily for me after a few overdubs, prob > need to fiddle > with gain structure I guess, but I am used to be able to > HIT THE GUITAR!!! > and stroke it... > > LOVED the idea of the track slip thing (is this the same as > on the repeater? > Should it slip by cycles, beats.. what?) unfortunatly that > crashed Mobius on > my machine... > > Also LOVED the idea of different presets on each track. > (But needed to > figure out how to change the default settings) Does ANYONE > have UN-synched > tracks as a default? Why? > > And seriously intrigued (but not enough time to try) by the > scripts thing. > One of my current techniques is to fire a bunch of midi > notes at my EDP from > my drum-machine. I regularly have pre worked-out sequences > for example... > that overdubs then changes the 8ths setting then goes half > speed, reverse, > normal speed, forward, multiply... then 25 undos in a row. > Now Im NOT SURE > if scripts will let me do the same thing... but I think > so... and more > besides... record on track one after an 8th, switch to > track 2, repeat > across all tracks, wher all tracks are pre pitched to > different notes, THEN > after one bar stop record on one and insert one space > later... bla bla > bla... > > What does "Shuffle" do? Button didnt seem to do > anything. > > I am yet to be able to say how it FEELS... This has been > one of my things in > previous posts, that just like a favoured guitar, where you > love the action > or the tone, and how it sits against your knee, a looper > has FEEL. The EDP > to me has lots of FEEL, I play WITH it, forget it, it > surprises me, yet > never tricks me. My OTHER looper the repeater, has NO FEEL, > I like its > features, but I must treat it like a tape machine, I switch > it on, it > records, it loops, it does what I tell it, but I cant > forget it, one Undo, > and 4 tracks means I lose myself in where what is, I need > to remove > something and take down the wrong track > > Now... with Mobius inside Mulch... with different tracks > coming out to > different bubbleblowers? shiiiiiiiit.. > > > > > So im not there yet... would like some feeback on these > questions, but I > will probably joint the Mobius list and hang out for a > bit... > Need to borrow a new soundcard witha midi IN and try it > with FCB.. maybe the > FEEL is ok... man... > > By the way.. where is the Mobius list, couldnt find it at > Yahoo... > > thats it for now... good first impresions... but scared > what the future > might bring (in more ways than one - see 3rd paragraph) > > Later kids, dont stay up to late.. > > Mark > > > > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > www.looop.no