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> > But i still love hardware,much sexier than stearing at a laptop and > dealing with mouses,so if Matthias comes up with a new hardware > stereo EDP with better sound quality upgradable and loop storage and > new cool functions i am buying one! I hope to get there! > > oh,and with his beautiful old logo offcourse;-) you mean LOOP ? one of the first things I did on my first mac in 1990 ;-) > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > > > --- On Tue, 9/30/08, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote: > >> From: mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> >> Subject: Mobius first impressions... and questions. >> To: "loopers-delight" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> >> Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 12:59 PM >> Hi guys, >> >> As many of you know from my previous rants aginst the >> "laptop loopers" I am >> a self proclaimed "hardware head" (its a medical >> condition you know). >> >> But I thought I would write a few notes to the group >> regarding my first >> experiences of.. wait for it, wait for it.... MOBIUS!!! >> >> But first a raison d'être: I was going to be at Y2k8, >> and perform. I was >> planning a NEW IMPROVED streamlined flight friendly case, >> empty of loopers >> (that I could borrow en situ) but full of... well my stuff. >> (synth modules, >> joysticks, and pitchshiftin, bit crushing madness.) It was >> then that it >> happened, I considered it, for the first time... laptop... >> gulp... and >> mobius... >> As some of you know I have had to cancel my trip and >> performance, cos my >> better half Hilde has been diagnosed with Cervical Cancer >> and we have just >> started her Radiation and Chemo therapy yesterday... some >> things come before >> looping guys. (and girls...go get them thar smear tests.. >> don't walk... >> run... ) >> >> Why have I always been against software, well it all stems >> from a period >> where I only produced music on computer, its was great... I >> did 2 maybe >> three great albums, using predominately Audio Mulch... I >> was drawn in by the >> wealth of possibilities, the infinate versions, radical mix >> after radical >> mix... I dreamt up instruments, then I created them, in >> SynthEdit or >> Reactor, I micro edited samples down at the sample level, >> building sounds >> from scratch, morphing one thing into another, I made >> aleatoric systems that >> played themselves getting their only data from weather >> pressure data from an >> alaskan website, I listened and recorded actual live police >> radio from >> Saracuse, it was a blast!!! >> >> But then I added up the amount of hours spent at a >> computer. As a film-maker >> as my dayjob, then coming home and using a computer for >> fun... I was sat >> there.. 18 hours a day, in front of the screen. >> >> So I went back to the (now dusty rack and modular synth) >> and never looked >> back... until now (Here comes the Mobius stuff for those >> that thought this >> was a Mobius review). >> >> I thought.. so what if I just had my guitar and a >> laptop..(reintroducing the >> guitar should keep it physical) and so for a mere 3 hours >> last night I gave >> it a go. >> I was mightily impressed. >> But not without some reservations. >> >> First-up I should say I couldnt get my FCB1010 to work with >> it. I should say >> that I will buy a PC lap and a decent sound/midi card when >> I have completely >> convinced myself, but for now I thought I would try it out >> with my M audio >> Ozone. Imagine my dismay when I went round the back of the >> keyboard and >> looked at "That other midi plug that should be midi >> IN"... Oh no.. its >> something called USB in... not a USB socket, but a midi >> plug, not sure what >> its for, but it aint midi IN... so no pedal power for >> now... >> >> And I think THAT issue would probably solve all my >> problems. As everyone >> knows, you cant loop with a mouse click... impossible, but >> I tried, oh and >> this with the new mac version. I will get a PC do do this >> eventually, so I >> can run it inside Mulch (anyone using Mobius in Mulch >> BTW... works?? or??) >> >> Sound quality was excellent, I think I probably have to >> change the noise >> floor setting, cos it was writing Overdubs every loop, even >> though I wasnt >> playing anything (that is the same as on the EDP right...? >> Dont play, no >> overdub??) >> >> I loved the fact that I could now SEE what was happening >> with the overdub >> layers, with the quantized up-coming commands. >> >> I was annoyed by the fact that one track stayed in Overdub >> when I switched >> to another... any need for that? >> >> And is it still recording into that first track while you >> make a new track? >> >> So actually I DIDNT like that it had multiple tracks, I >> could use ONE more >> than the edp... so two... and I like that they are stereo, >> but I found >> myself going to new tracks all the time, like it was a >> repeater, and that >> makes a different kind of music... that is unweildy and >> repetative, one that >> you cant change in a moment cos everything is spread across >> tracks... god 4 >> tracks is too many on the Repeater for me!! >> >> None of the speed change or pitch shift things worked >> (apart from the EDPish >> hlfspeed, worked fine) but thats probably a mac version >> port thing-soon to >> be fixed. >> >> It distorted quite easily for me after a few overdubs, prob >> need to fiddle >> with gain structure I guess, but I am used to be able to >> HIT THE GUITAR!!! >> and stroke it... >> >> LOVED the idea of the track slip thing (is this the same as >> on the repeater? >> Should it slip by cycles, beats.. what?) unfortunatly that >> crashed Mobius on >> my machine... >> >> Also LOVED the idea of different presets on each track. >> (But needed to >> figure out how to change the default settings) Does ANYONE >> have UN-synched >> tracks as a default? Why? >> >> And seriously intrigued (but not enough time to try) by the >> scripts thing. >> One of my current techniques is to fire a bunch of midi >> notes at my EDP from >> my drum-machine. I regularly have pre worked-out sequences >> for example... >> that overdubs then changes the 8ths setting then goes half >> speed, reverse, >> normal speed, forward, multiply... then 25 undos in a row. >> Now Im NOT SURE >> if scripts will let me do the same thing... but I think >> so... and more >> besides... record on track one after an 8th, switch to >> track 2, repeat >> across all tracks, wher all tracks are pre pitched to >> different notes, THEN >> after one bar stop record on one and insert one space >> later... bla bla >> bla... >> >> What does "Shuffle" do? Button didnt seem to do >> anything. >> >> I am yet to be able to say how it FEELS... This has been >> one of my things in >> previous posts, that just like a favoured guitar, where you >> love the action >> or the tone, and how it sits against your knee, a looper >> has FEEL. The EDP >> to me has lots of FEEL, I play WITH it, forget it, it >> surprises me, yet >> never tricks me. My OTHER looper the repeater, has NO FEEL, >> I like its >> features, but I must treat it like a tape machine, I switch >> it on, it >> records, it loops, it does what I tell it, but I cant >> forget it, one Undo, >> and 4 tracks means I lose myself in where what is, I need >> to remove >> something and take down the wrong track >> >> Now... with Mobius inside Mulch... with different tracks >> coming out to >> different bubbleblowers? shiiiiiiiit.. >> >> >> >> >> So im not there yet... would like some feeback on these >> questions, but I >> will probably joint the Mobius list and hang out for a >> bit... >> Need to borrow a new soundcard witha midi IN and try it >> with FCB.. maybe the >> FEEL is ok... man... >> >> By the way.. where is the Mobius list, couldnt find it at >> Yahoo... >> >> thats it for now... good first impresions... but scared >> what the future >> might bring (in more ways than one - see 3rd paragraph) >> >> Later kids, dont stay up to late.. >> >> Mark >> >> >> >> >> -- >> www.markfrancombe.com >> http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe >> http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe >> www.looop.no > > > >