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Both Per and Kris have said it so well - i'm a laptop looper because i keep growing out of hw and getting frustrated with the fact that it isn't generally designed for ME and isn't that expandable or updatable. With software, i often feel like that character in the old Mr. Natural comics - was it Flakey Foont? - saying "the paperwork alone will take years". However, I do get what I need from it eventually. Processor speed is still an issue, but there are always compromises. BTW, I'm very possibly going to finally abandon my always-a-work-in-progress MAX/MSP looper in favor of Mobius now that it's on the Mac, probably as soon as it becomes an AU. When I started my project years ago, there were no good alternatives, but Jeff has done such a great job that I can redirect all that programming time into music once again! Yes, I have to go through another learning curve, but that's gotta be a *lot* easier than what i've been doing. Later, i expect to run just the low-cpu midi processing part of MAX to generate additional sequences synced to the loops, for additional synthetic accompaniment (for me, weirdly, this seems to be the next frontier. funny how things come around. midi sounds used to sound like crap, generally, and now they sound great, especially mixed with "real" sounds, and they're so malleable with, say, really long-running LFOs, continuous controllers, and even the velocities of what you're playing live, to reduce the repetitiveness of certain loop elements). Warren