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Ableton for looping, Bidule for LiveLooping For playing pre-recorded clips, Ableton is prefered, and then it's possible to liveloop within it as well. Bidule is more for live use, though it wouldn't be difficult to record and mix with it. ..being a Bidule user (tho' only for testing, not live work) I find it incredibly easy to use. The routing is achieved by dragging virtual cables from one "device" to another, so for chaining up vst-plugins (au too on mac) there's no learning curve at all. Bidule implements time sync between vst plugins in a way that no other host does. You can sync any plugin to any other plugin with complete freedom. (works too!) and Bidule's cheaper. hope that's not too much info about Bidule andy butler Michael Peters wrote: > in simple terms, what is the reason for you as a livelooper to use >Ableton > Live compared to programs like Audiomulch and Bidule? or vice versa, or >does > anyone use both? > > -Michael > >