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On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 10:33 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote: > upon pressing footpedal, will , > after quantise amount, shift to specifyed rate shift amount. so you >release > you pedal after a bit and insead of jumping back to corrct pitch >imediatly, > it waits till it has filled the "HOLE" left by speeding up the music, so >for > a 5th up it would play twice for every 1 8th that you recorded into. An >8th > DOWN would either insert an extra portion OR if it was half way through >its > 8th, could cut in half... (confused... yeah me too) Just an idea... > > Anyway, the idea is that despite stomping about in a 16 beat measure, and > pitching aboot all over the shop, the measure always stays 16 beats long, > but not there are 2 double speed beats where 1 used to be, and 1 half >speed > beats where 2 used to be?? Although I think that I have already posted enough in this thread I can't help commenting on your post, Mark. Because you are pretty much describing a certain functionality I have built in scripting for Mobius ;-)) What you bring about above is the fun part of using Rate Shift as opposed to Repeater-style pitch-shift with time-stretching applied. However, I don't use an expression pedal as you envision, for the reason that it is not exact enough. I simply trigger the script from a pedal button and have it to start on at a quantized time. That way I can build into the pitch/rate-shifting script to compensate for the fact that a higher pitch means shorter loop time and lower pitch means longer loop. I've managed to make this work to insert bass notes in a loop without changing the total loop length, only temporarily at the spot where the loop is shfited up one (or two) octave to overdub a substitute a slice. The solution I found is to insert a short down dip afterwards, just to enough to bring back the loop in sync with other parallel loops. I've even built a script that reverses the loop repeatedly and overdubs at different rates, so a chord stab is created from one played note. That's fun to play with, but I have not managed to make it bring back the loop track sync afterwards, Since I'm a lazy programmer I simply slapped a Realign command after that whole stab chord shaping shebang. As long as it sounds good 'n glitchy I don't mind a bit out of sync for a fraction of a second. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com