Re: Loop software with varispeed (sounding example clips)

["mark francombe" <mark@markfrancombe.com>]

Yes, and that's the point!  Crashes are nice if you play over them.  I
take it you are hinting at poly rhythm when typing "RYTHYMICALLY
crash" ;-

which someone is dubiously" calling "polyrythmical".

I guess we posted at the same time here, Per.. oops sorry... Im sure you are NOT being dubious about you use of the word polyrithmik..

BUT... your clips, nice sounding as they are.. BTW.. do actually prove my point... they are predominately UN-rhythmic in the first place, more of the ambient bed type, sound.. so when I hear you pitch, the "sound" of the pitch change is awesome, presumably cos its reminiscent of tape top me...BUT.. you continue to play over the top in the SAME pulse as existed before, and as you are changing THE whole loop, not just 3 beats of it, its percieved as a musical slow-down or key modulation or something.
What happens if you "Quantise insert" a rate shift into half a loop, and play over that, what happens if you are playing hits, hard knocks, and not drones and swells?
Sorry if this is getting micro-anal, here, but Im kinda into this... I routinely sequence my repeater and edp against each other, and use the edp clock to change the rate on the repeater, to do this. Unfortunately the R aint always spot on (when its finaly found its correct speed... but...) I guess I come up with some fucking cool polyrythyms!!

M
 

> But isnt Repeater style TIME STRETCH
> more musically usefull?

Only if you don't explore the poly rhythms that may occur when rate
shifting a loop. I remember when I was using a Repeater I initially
liked it that it always played the same thing but at different
pitches. My first flirt with varispeed was the HalfSpeed of the EDP.
But then I started fiddling with Augustus Loop together with the EDP
and I found that Augustus varispeed opened up not only for all kinds
of pitch changes but also for interesting rhythms. Then Mobius came
around with varispeed and SooperLooper got it too. In the hardware
world I've been enjoying varispeed looping since around -82 with
various analog delays and Roland Chorus Delay (tape). Buy you get to a
new level of musical control when you start learning those rhythmic
crashes, because when in software you can set it up for a pure third,
fifth or whatever and incorporate what that sounds like into your
imagination for impro (or for composing if you are so inclined)

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