Re: Live Looping in an ensemble context

["Byron Howell" <howell.byron@gmail.com>]

 I intend for each technological element to communicate in some way with one another. I hope the results will be beneficial. I'll keep you posted on that.
 have put together a trio recently in which each musician is utilising some form of interactive technology alongside their acoustic or semi-acoustic instrument

Hey Ricky

Please do keep the list posted...on the writing up of the project ,as well as the music that is. Very interested to see the form that emerges when one tries to put ones music/ musical concepts in words

For me, it perhaps was detrimental to the thesis.....cybernetic epistemology centred around circularity and feedbackloop as a model for consiousness...why? the death  of an academic :) 

but i brought it back to the music..

Generate a whole new language it does......describing ones process of creation or rather of creating. that log of document, the archival of the processs is what the academics want, i think....makes for good research on how we work and create and think..

Wht does one mean by "clean" sound or "dirty" or "spacious"

Iteresting because it does link up to that early thread of how to describe live looping or catagorise it.

Yakady

Byron

but there i go babbling.....

On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Ricky Graham <rock.guitar.guru@btinternet.com> wrote:

Thanks for the links, Matthias. In beginning my research, like you've mentioned, I very much thought of looping within a solo performer context. Now that i've been made aware of the EDP and it's intention for ensemble practice, it has become a core focus of my work and I can foresee that it will continue in this manner for quite some time. I have put together a trio recently in which each musician is utilising some form of interactive technology alongside their acoustic or semi-acoustic instrument. I intend for each technological element to communicate in some way with one another. I hope the results will be beneficial. I'll keep you posted on that.

Ricky


----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthias Grob" <matilists@atarde.com.br>

To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>

Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 4:33 AM

Subject: Re: Live Looping in an ensemble context

Great subject!

I allways felt a bit sad that although live looping makes playing solo easier, it might also cause people to stay alone.
One of the main reason to build the LOOP delay (which turned into the EDP) was the BrotherSync feature.
I did the first session with it in '92 with David Hopkins.
But before I had great times to play with others into the same delay machine.
Some of the best recordings are on
http://matthias.grob.org/pMusic/CDsE.htm
The most intense duos have been with percussionists: Giba, Bira,  David...

The first festival I participated was Loopstock. I looked for someone  to bring me there and Jon Wagner offered some space in his overloaded fantastic old Volvo, next to all his drums. When I heard he was  druming, I asked to play together, so we met a few days before and  figured it out and it worked.
And I started this week to edit the video! (learning...)
I will tell you when I upload it.

And at Y2k7 I invited Arild Andersen to play with me - which was a bit heavy for me (sync did not work), but still fun!  ;-)

And today I talked with Per and he suggested to bring up this social subject more, and I said: can you point me at videos of duo  recordings, with at least two players using loops most of the time? He  could not. I met very few
Urban Nature: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaJKp8KvABc
Lur: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZIc1uPcZUY
Improvizone: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lV3KN5g-fo (special case since Os does the looping)
Mich Gerber: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA1srd_bczs (he plays professionally with a band, but just him looping)
Rick, Per and Pellef: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAySrzSa7Hg

Yes, to be social here is great, to meet at festivals is even better,  but the best is to do it together!!

Matthias

On 12 Dec 2008, at 10:24, Ricky Graham wrote:

Hello Everyone,

How many of you loop with an ensemble? Could you get in touch with  me as I'd like to ask you a few questions.

Cheers,

Ricky

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