Re: Fwd: here and now / evolving loops

[Daryl Shawn <highhorse@mhorse.com>]

This is an interesting discussion.

It's true, Fabio, many looping artists tend to stay fixed on a tonal 
center. One simple trick I've found is to make a sudden or gradual 
change to a different chord in the same key. The most obvious is to go 
to the relative major or minor, so if it's been a heavy E minor groove, 
I'll start feeding in G major triads. It can create some real drama, 
while allowing an established loop to continue. It's not hard to switch 
back and forth, especially if you replace the lowest part of your loops 
(whatever serves as your "bass").

More dramatically, I'll lay groundwork for an actual key change by 
inserting bits of very nontonal, undefined stuff, slowly obliterating 
the previous key center. When the previous key has disappeared in a 
nontonal mess, I'll start a new one, replacing the nontonal stuff with 
inside material. Coming from chaos to a defined key center can work 
really nicely.

Daryl Shawn
www.swanwelder.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com

> What remains unsolved in my mind is: what do you mean about "changing 
> direction" ?
>
> Referring to tonality, it seems that a lot of people in this list play 
> on a "tonal centre" (you know what i mean....: playing and looping in 
> E minor, for example) This is no the case of Kris et alteri....I know, 
> but most of people here (including myself) play mostly "on" or 
> "around" the same chord.
>  
> It's rare to hear someone changing chords, when looping (i mean having 
> and evolving an harmonic structure, like: A minor/D minor/G major/D 
> major and back to the beginning ...just for example) and evolving that 
> chords change into a new one while looping.
>
> So, sometimes i feel like live looping miss something about "harmony". 
> You can change rhythm, melodies, but it's difficult to build in short 
> time chords structures that evolve "while" looping.