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Daryl, is there a specific instance of you doing this up someplace? I would love to hear it! Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daryl Shawn" <highhorse@mhorse.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 1:10 PM Subject: Re: Fwd: here and now / evolving loops > This is an interesting discussion. > > It's true, Fabio, many looping artists tend to stay fixed on a tonal > center. One simple trick I've found is to make a sudden or gradual > change to a different chord in the same key. The most obvious is to go > to the relative major or minor, so if it's been a heavy E minor groove, > I'll start feeding in G major triads. It can create some real drama, > while allowing an established loop to continue. It's not hard to switch > back and forth, especially if you replace the lowest part of your loops > (whatever serves as your "bass"). > > More dramatically, I'll lay groundwork for an actual key change by > inserting bits of very nontonal, undefined stuff, slowly obliterating > the previous key center. When the previous key has disappeared in a > nontonal mess, I'll start a new one, replacing the nontonal stuff with > inside material. Coming from chaos to a defined key center can work > really nicely. > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > >> What remains unsolved in my mind is: what do you mean about "changing >> direction" ? >> >> Referring to tonality, it seems that a lot of people in this list play >> on a "tonal centre" (you know what i mean....: playing and looping in >> E minor, for example) This is no the case of Kris et alteri....I know, >> but most of people here (including myself) play mostly "on" or >> "around" the same chord. >> >> It's rare to hear someone changing chords, when looping (i mean having >> and evolving an harmonic structure, like: A minor/D minor/G major/D >> major and back to the beginning ...just for example) and evolving that >> chords change into a new one while looping. >> >> So, sometimes i feel like live looping miss something about "harmony". >> You can change rhythm, melodies, but it's difficult to build in short >> time chords structures that evolve "while" looping. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1864 - Release Date: 12/25/2008 9:40 AM