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On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 10:39 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote: > Ages ago there used to be a box, forget the manufacturer, which could be >a > hardware PLAYER of midi sequences, so you would program things on your >midi > seq of chice, and then transfer them (via floppy disk I think, how >quaint) Roland Micro Composer? > and then this box just had play stop on it. ...well, obviously not. ;-) Wasn't the name of that box something self describing as "MIDI File Player"? > Im imagining a device that sould have a UI not unlike the mobius er.. > "timeline"... divided into quantised divisions, and that commands (or >notes) > could be queued up in advance. one could save "midi loops", and name them > dependant of their function. Well, I did that in Ableton Live. Cuing up MIDI loops and clips containing series of "looper command events" for my EDP in the rack and Augustus Loop on the same laptop. You may label the Live Clips accordingly like: - "Reverse and overdub for three bars" - "Tremolo Feedback sweeps, square wave, 16T during Overdub - 8 bars" - "Record two new parallel 4 bars loops and then time shift them by 1/32" ...etc, etc... whatever you might need. > Question #2 > > I havent tried to do this yet, and I could, but maybe Per remembers, or >Andy > knows.... but one clever thing I thought of wopuld be to program the > settings of the edp via a drum machine. So instead of changing premade > "presets", one uses the midi command for the PARAMETER button, and then >the > midi command to select the parameter, then the command to change the > parameter. Now if I did this... how FAST would EDP accept these changes? > could I program each command one 64th apart, faster? > > I know this seems very laborious, but it has 2 advantages, one... it >would > become quite quick to use once you had a few sequences worked out (if you > can cut n paste a number of notes at a time) and 2 you could leave your >EDP > at home, and just bring this one box... borrow an edp, and not care if >their > settings were the same as yours, cos your sequencer would set the setting > for you... > > who has done this... and why is it a bad idea? Michael Schiefel. At the loopfest in Zürich 2005 he showed us how he is using MIDI SySex like that. http://www.michaelschiefel.com/ > PS Im still looking for a loopable midi sequencer too... with VERY chunky > quantise (like 16th) so I can play on my guitar synth, its recorded and >then > looped (till I play notes that occur on the same beat as a previous >note, in > which case they are replaced... was this what you did on the Alesis >Per?)... > do i have to mention... not software??? No, I used the Alesis for LFO style pitch shifting of Repeater tracks. David Torn hinted about that. Then the rubber buttons of my Alesis clogged up... until the grade that I needed to put the sequencer on the floor, place one leg of a chair on the play button and then get up on the chair and jump until it entered Play Mode. I could never figure out a trick to pull out that clogged button to stop playback, so I archived the Alesis with power chord disconnected ;-)) What you are describing is more a MPC work flow, the classical drum machine approach. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com