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Well Andy i am still trying to figure it out myself... here is what i did: My RME FW800 was always pluged to my PC(though the RME had an issue a year before when all of the sudden it stopped working) The i disconected the RME to test it with my macbook and after that plugged it back to my PC.Then all of a sudden the RME stopped working. The i disconected my firebox from my Mac to see if the PCI card on my PC was burned but my firebox worked perfect,i even did some recording with it that night.I also used the same cable. So i sent the RME for repairs assuming it had a problem again. the next day i had a loop gig and i conected my firebox back with my mac and did the gig with no problems.Since i needed to work on with Sonar on my PC i reconected the firebox back to my PC but all of the sudden my firebox also stopped working.So i reconected it to my mac to test it with another cable but didnt work with it either.So i sent the firebox for repairs. because my firebox had worked perfectly after the RME had gone bad i assumed the PCI was still ok but after testing a borrowed FW external drive, the PCI and the macbook didnt recognize it.Then i went ahead and tested both further with a mout Soundcard and didint work with both computers so then i realized something had gone bad with both the PCI and the FW on my Mac. Now my mac which was i insured with the protection plan is working again,my RME is on its way again repaired and the firebox will eventually get here as well.So though i am still nto sure what was faulty i took the PCI card out of my PC and trashed it and ordered a new one.Ive also made sure that all FW cables are working.But dont ask me what happened! Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Wed, 4/1/09, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > From: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> > Subject: Re: Packing a laptop setup (with trombone) into bags > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Wednesday, April 1, 2009, 8:13 AM > > > L.Angulo wrote: > >,i didnt know that a FW cable can cause such damage > > Well, I was putting that forward as a possibility, I > haven't yet > experienced that a shorted cable damages the firewire card > in the pc. > > Did you confirm that this was the case? > > Luis said > >>what is puzzling me is that i conected the RME to > >> my macbook and my macbooks firewire was also fried > which i > > > So I was thinking that if the RME wasn't to blame, must be > the cable. > > > > > > > The firewire connectors are pretty fragile, and certainly > the > circuit board in Matthias' firewire guitar fried do to a > bad connection. > I think it was the socket in that case, but the overall > design isn't > robust. ( certainly not good to use a guitar lead ) > > The cable carries power, and there isn't much separating > the power connection > to the signal connection. > > andy > >