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i had a dream one night of the perfect software looper that allowed me to do practically anything i wanted- then i found out it wasnt a dream.... it existed..... it was called mobius.... and it was FREE i then sold 4 electrix repeaters, 1 LP1 and bought a laptop and RME interface..... booya for scripting fro > From: stringfling@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Mobius, Stylus RMX, other choices. WAS: Early bird loopers with Live? > Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 04:20:30 -0700 > > > for hard on-the-beat sequencing of loop mangling I go for scripting > in Mobius. > > Hm. Scripting in Mobius... sounds complicated but what isn't? I feel > there's got to be a great solution in here for me (finally). The > second I opened up Mobius (just now) and saw those familiar EDP > functions I knew it was a missing piece of the puzzle.. > > Between Mobius, Ableton Live 8, and Mainstage for software with a > Rocktron Midi Mate foot pedal for starting and stopping RMX parts > individually as well as the EDP-like Mobius functions, a GCP for Live > clip/sceen functions (now that there's a Bome's midi translator for > mac), the x-tempo POK for various things like arrows, copy/paste, and > duplicate functions where it makes sense (so I don't have to bank up > and down all the time)---I think I'll finally be able to really nail > my system down: > > --- Stylus RMX (along with others, but RMX as the base) for drums with > independent parts stopped and started via feet. (I think RMX is > acceptable live if it's played like an instrument w/ the feet.) > --- Trilogy (and logic sound modules if using Mainstage) via EWI or > Midi Guitar for bass (or a real bass ) layered over the drums > --- Then guitar, vocals, sax, or midi sounds from NI Kore, Motu's > Symphonic or Ethno instruments (among others) layered over the bass > and drums. > --- And, Livid Union with the Ohm controller and x-tempo POK (and > sometimes EWI and Midi Guitar) for live video trigger/manipulation. > > Missing components were getting Stylus RMX to be foot controlled, > Bome's Midi Translator for mac and the x-tempo-POK to ease foot > control set up, and Mobius/Live8 for true software looping > functionality. All coming together now... it has to be. > > I think we're a few months away from a demo of some sort, people!... > once I get everything playing well together. > > (I'm excited so I thought I'd share.) When I truly figure out the best > set up and work flow (hardware, software, and musically speaking) I > will pass it on in full detail. > > > > > On Apr 6, 2009, at 3:27 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 12:01 PM, David Hayes <stringfling@gmail.com> > > wrote: > >> Thank you so much for your time. The main thing I was looking for > >> was a way > >> to Loop with Stylus RMX as the basic drum part, taking the drum > >> parts in and > >> out with my footswitch and always being in time. All with the same > >> basic > >> work flow as an EDP. Ability to set loop tempo with first phrase > >> would be a > >> nice extra but not so important. > > > > Ah... now we're talking! RMX is awesome, but I would guess that any > > host slaving to MIDI Clock is not rhythmically stable enough for RMX > > (please note this is a guess - if you are interested you should really > > try it out to see if it works). RMX has always been stable for me when > > the host is the sync master. > > > > Slave syncing Loopers: I've been jamming with other musicians when we > > were all using EDP's and the only down side is that you may have to > > wait for the on-beat when laying down your first loop (I sometimes > > created a silent first loop, in the Brother Sync network, and then > > filled it up with my playing, just to avoid bumps). It's just that for > > the solo concerts I do it makes for a way better performance if never > > having to watch the scrreen or wait for a cue... just get up there and > > start playing, sort of. And I never use "drums" live if there is not a > > drummer (laptopper or skin basher) on stage to play with me ;-)) > > (but I really love RMX for studio work!!!! Especially 1.7 for odd > > measures) > > > > About MIDI Clock: After all it is a subversive catch-up game. The sync > > slave never really realizes that it is too fast or too slow until it > > has already crossed the line and has to start adjusting to compensate > > for its mistake. And then it makes the same mistake from the other > > direction... and vice versa... for eternity. TAlk about a "miserable > > loop"! Good thing machines and software don't have feelings - they > > would instantly implode into depression ;-) > > > > I use the host application for synced delays, reverb, synced tremolo > > or filter sweeps. For effect add-ons like those I the rubber band > > timing of a MIDI Clock sync is good enough. But for hard on-the-beat > > sequencing of loop mangling I go for scripting in Mobius. The reason > > is that this will then be done in a rock solid timing > > > > Per > > > Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. |