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On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Raul Bonell<raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote: > even taking as starting point a simply 7th chord. I understood Margret's post as talking in "steps", as equalling half notes, or frets on a guitar. By that view the seventh step is simply the fifth, not a 7th chord. And when transposed by "eleven steps" it becomes adds in for a MINUS NINE CHORD... (or -13 as voiced and called in jazz) - wow, I missed that in my last post. Maybe not precisely "a blobby cluster" but definitely a somewhat dissonant chord, maybe going for "fluffy" if played light with a not too fat sound! We'll have the major third, fifth, maj7 and in the upper octave half note above octave (-13) and minor third. per