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Interesting thread. I prefer to work with fully controllable pre-looper effects to create interesting textures, drones and I use the looper to record snippets of that, change speed, reverse it, feedback fade-in/out etc. I never used post-looper effects so far. For me, the question is not where to put the reverb but how much reverb I want to have in the mix in combination with pre-looper delays. In my current setup, the routing looks like this: Instrument + FX => pre-loopers => looper The instrument might be a mic with or a synth patch with it's own insert effects like EQ, compression, a little reverb etc and these aren't changed during a performance. The pre-loopers however are fully midi controllable and exists of 3 delays in series and a long bright reverb. Instrument + FX => delay 1 => delay 2 => delay 3 => reverb => looper For each of them I have a fader to control the mix of the effect and a few buttons and knobs to control parameters like sync, delay time. The character of each of the pre-looper effects differs a lot and this gives me the flexibility to choose from different atmospheres. Also important, the pre-loopers are panned differently. Bottomline: depending on which pre-looper delays are active, the reverb is post-pre-loop or pre-loop but never post-loop ;-) -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ http://euroloopfest.com/