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Hi Andy, uff after 3 days with this thing i found it!!! i went and gave all of the functions a note off comand and they all work now without interfiering with each other,dont ask me why the virtual ones didnt need a note off and the direct midi do,beyond me! I even called Jeff and went through it together but he never mentioned to me sending a note off,i guess because the virtual midi notes were working he also assumed it was something else on my inability to program it. Yet the sustain ones still arent working at all and is triggering other functions but i will give your advice a try using CC´s and get back to you. there is another thing that bothers me with this footcontroller, if i tap really fast is not as responsive as the fcb1010 and it skips some of the foot taps,yes is very new on the market and it is updatable with a software editor.I must admit that Jeff is a very nice guy as well but i think hes up to his eye balls and cannot answer emails or calls right away so u are lucky if u catch him. But yes the manual plain sucks as usual! to be continued cheers www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> schrieb am Do, 26.11.2009: > Von: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> > Betreff: Re: programing liquid foot jr. midi footcontroller with EDP >help! > An: "LD" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > Datum: Donnerstag, 26. November 2009, 5:12 > Hi Luis, > Well, probably the next thing to try is to contact the > Liquid Foot guys. > (if you didn't already). > Tell them you need each switch to send a Note-On when it's > pressed, > and a Note-Off when it's released. > ...and nothing else. > Perhaps explain you do something called "live looping", > that a lot of people > do that, and that they have special needs as regards midi > pedals. > I'd expect them to be really helpful, and they may update > their software. > (Is your unit updatable?) > > > > The manual hardly mentions Note-On at all, maybe their > implementation is > a bit weird. (it seems so, you might try hooking up a midi > sound module > with an organ type sound and see if that sustains while the > switch is held) > Actually, the manual looks unfinished...they didn't do the > midi implementation > chart yet! > > > Another option is to try CC commands instead. > The liquid certainly seems to have a "momentary" > option for those, designed to keep an effect switched > on while you hold the switch down. > > page 64 in the manual (and maybe some earlier pages) > tells how you can just program in a CC value (same as EDP > note number) > and have the switch send 127 on that CC on press, and 0 on > release. > > hope you get looping,soon > > andy > > > > > L.Angulo wrote: > >> But as i said its only working for the virtual > comands > >> and not the direct midi ones and is driving me > crazy! > >> > >> huh, 62 General reset *is* a Direct Midi. > >> ..and that's a "voila" > > > > Hi Andy im still having problems with this and i dont > know if its me or the controller but i need to know > otherwise i think im going to return it. > > heres the deal,why is it that the behringer functions > perfectly and this one doesnt? on the behringer i just give > the note number regardless if its a virtual midi or direct > midi and it works! > > with the liquid foot only the virtual ones work but i > cannot get "general reset" (62) or any of the other ones to > work! ive tried everything,setting the switch > momentary,stomp tap tempo etc. > > > >> Is it possible that you mean other Direct Midi's > aren't > >> working? > >> If they were SUS commands then that makes sense, > and ties > >> in with > >> your observation that longpress on Record (to give > Reset) > >> isn't working. > > > > all im entering is the note number and the data value > of 127 and nothing else! > > But i have discovered something: > > when i reset the echoplex by holding and pressing the > record button ,then when i send the general reset comand > from the liquid foot it seems to triger it,but then when i > use the record button it doesnt work anymore!it also seems > to put the edp in a weird mode,that is when i try to reset > it by holding and pressing th record button it seems as if > it was locked and then i press it a second time and it > resets,any ideas? ive been even thinking of sending it to > you so you can check it out but i dont know if that would be > ok with you,plus you could do a comparison between the > gordius and this one;-) > > thanx for your always great help man i really > apreciate it! > > > > > >> My guess is that your controller is sending > >> Note-On/Note-Off pairs on > >> pressing the switch, not waiting for you to > release it > >> before sending the Note-Off. > >> > >> So, the Direct Midi SUS commands will not be > audible. > >> (e.g. SUS Reverse would reverse for such a small > time that > >> you wouldn't perceive it) > >> > >> > >> I had a look at the manual for your controller, > it > >> describes a number > >> of "button modes". > >> One of those is "Momentary while Holding" > >> ....that's what you want. > >> (or whatever causes the Note-Off to be sent as > you > >> *release* the switch) > > > > tried that but nothing either... > >> hope that helps > >> > >> andy > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> andy > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> cheers > >>>>> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> --- andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> > >>>> schrieb am Mo, 23.11.2009: > >>>>>> Von: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> > >>>>>> Betreff: Re: programing liquid > foot jr. > >> midi > >>>> footcontroller with EDP help! > >>>>>> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >>>>>> Datum: Montag, 23. November 2009, > 10:46 > >>>>>> what Per said for the DirectMidi. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> They only require Note-On (except > for > >> SUS) > >>>>>> To get the longpress(to make reset > work) > >> I'd try > >>>> changing > >>>>>> the Button Mode to "Momentary > while > >> Holding". > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I don't understand where you > entered > >> "64". > >>>>>> andy > >>>>>> L.Angulo wrote: > >>>>>>> hi gang, > >>>>>>> i just got the litte liquid > foot midi > >>>> controller and > >>>>>> im having a hard time controlling > the EDP > >> as i did > >>>> with the > >>>>>> behringer. > >>>>>>> So far ive manage to program > the > >> virtual > >>>> functions > >>>>>> like > >>>>>>> record > >>>>>>> overdub > >>>>>>> multiply > >>>>>>> mute > >>>>>>> undo > >>>>>>> next > >>>>>>> reverse > >>>>>>> half speed > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> the way i have to do this is > giving > >> the "note > >>>> on" > >>>>>> offset number and a value of 64 > and it > >> works > >>>> fine. > >>>>>>> However when i try to program > any of > >> the e > >>>> DirectMidi > >>>>>> functions it does not respond at > all,do i > >> have to > >>>> send > >>>>>> additional comands for them to > function? i > >> recall > >>>> on the > >>>>>> behringer fcb1010 i just gave the > note > >> number and > >>>> it > >>>>>> worked. > >>>>>>> The otherr thing that is not > working > >> is > >>>> erasing the > >>>>>> loop by holding and pressing the > record > >> button. > >>>>>>> Anyway if u midi experts could > take a > >> little > >>>> time to > >>>>>> help me id be really thankfull! > >>>>>>> here is the liquid foot jr > manual: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> http://www.liquid-foot.com/downloads.shtml > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thanx > >>>>>>> cheers > >>>>>>> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >> > __________________________________________________ > >>>>>>> Do You Yahoo!? > >>>>>>> Sie sind Spam leid? 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