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Thanks for articulating this point Mathias, its really gotten me thinking (so much so in fact I dreamt I was explaining this point to a friend of mine last night while I slept). I have been looping for a long time now and generally improvising while I do so. I enjoy the process very much, but always find myself uneasy with the result. People are talking about what labels and categories their music fall in to (or out of) but I find myself wondering at times if "Music" is even the right category for what I'm doing. The idea that this process may be primarily about inducing a trance is very appealing to me and explains some of my quandary in thinking about this music of mine. Its not a huge concern for me since I'm not attempting to earn a living doing this nor am I ever likely to, but I do think about doing this for a potential audience now and again and I find that thinking in terms of the presentation of a potential trance is both easier and more difficult. I'm not really sure how you would entice people into that experience, but I think I'm more comfortable trying to do that than I am in trying to present myself as performing musician. In my case, the 'music' is secondary to what goes on while its being created. So anyway, thanks for that perspective and yes, I truly do enjoy the fact that it does work and I can produce my own trance. Kevin On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Matthias Grob <matilists@gmail.com> wrote: > Let me start with an example of my own experience: > > I have mainly been playing with non musicians in a group of up to 25 > improvising happy noise making people. > It worked amazingly well! For those who did it regularly, it was like a > spiritual shower, leaving us fresh and optimistic, with a different body > feeling and so on, while others came the first time and in the end had a > huge smile on the face, saying: "I did not know I was able to play >music!" > but: > I never recorded that music. Many asked me to, but in the middle of the > trance I sometimes put my daily ears back on, just to realize that we >were > mostly making noise, out of tune, boring... so I did not want to >disappoint > anyone about it and left the great impression we had when the REAL energy > was flowing and bringing us together, which is the essence, much more > important than the recording. > > I then learned from it, that with solo looping I went through a similar > process. I liked my first recordings and the trance went on all day while > designing the looping tools, I did not care/notice that my friends did >not > like the recordings so much. > Doing it live, I sometimes managed to spread the trance over some public >and > they became fascinated. After years even over a bigger public. Then, > finally, a few people went off with my recordings - also because I >carefully > edited them all, taking out wrong notes, boring parts, and more and more >the > "experimental" parts, too, observing that the fans did not like them (a >big > advantage of selling cassette tapes: you can visit a client and look >where > he stopped your music :-) > But after all those years of free music of mine on the net and a CD on CD > baby and what not, the word of mouth is still not spreading my music - > because its not good enough! > > So: > there is a very long way from serious trance producing art to something >that > people actually buy. > we have been talking a lot about commercial music and how bad it is and >how > successful musicians have to bend... > I see it different now: > don't bend your personality, play your real trance thing, but so well >that > people can understand and follow it, even if they are not in a room with > you! > or accept that it only works live > or only with a few friends > or only by yourself > BUT: enjoy that it DOES work, its an amazing gift to be able to produce >your > own trance !! > > (I am using "trance" in a more open way, following http://trance.org) > -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos