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Interesting discussion. I worked with shuffle function in the past, but I abandoned it 'cos I wasn't able to get a pleasant musical result like the "scramble" function of the Lp1. I've never had an EDP, but I've read the manual a few times in the last years to get confident with the same functions in Mobius, I do not have a direct experience on loop windowing, so please forgive me if I say something wrong. Did you try the "TRIM" commands ? You can trim start point and end point according to your 8th-16th or whatever per cycle setting. It's not the same as "divide", trim actions will create a new loop with a new start or end point, defining a new loop lenght. I find it very useful and capable of nice musical results. Anyone tried it ?-fabio
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