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ill put my 2 pesos here,im not a computer wizard nor do i want to be,ive used PCs for recording and everything else ever since i started using computers and since the last 2 years i own an IMac and a macbook.So Ive bought Logic and other programs that are important for me and started from scratch with the hope of taking everything to a higher or more "pro" level..The only thing i miss form the PC so far is some fo the software i was so used to like soundforge and vegas,and soem plugins,i also wish Sonar was made for Macs,i had to relearn a new software but so far im happy with logic. As far as reliability goes i really dont see a big difference honestly,my imac has crashed as well,often while im working the little spining rainbow freesbee shows up and i used to think it was cute,now it iiritates the shit out of me. I had win XP on my PC and tweaked it for audio and it worked quite reliable and to be honest i was working with software given from friends free vsts etc.in other words it hardly cost me anything.Now with a Mac the costs have risen and i have no problem paying for quality but at the end for me is stability and reliability and ive yet to see with time how it goes with my Imac when i really start pushing the machine to its limits to make a valid statement. As far as ease of use and grafic design beauty Mac rules no doubt,its such a pleasure sitting in front of such a beautful screen or building a home network with this machines,i sure as hell dont miss doing that with windows! Luis On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 6:30 AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote: > Thanks, Dennis, I agree with you 100% > and I really do respect both yours and Per's vastly larger experience > in this field than mine. > > I also really misspoke and should have used the word 'personal' rather >than > 'anecdotal'. > Of course, I agree that both of your experiences (and perhaps Stephens' >too, > but I don't > know his computer history well) are not 'anecdotal'. Forgive me for >the > error. > > I also think that a person's choice of gear has largely to do with what >they > want from > it. As an example, Per makes the good point that because Macs are > designed in house > entirely that one will probably experience less down time if things go > wrong. > This is a very valid point and obviously an important selling point for >him. > > For me, however, the fact that the PC world is a lot cheaper >(financially, I > mean , in this instance) > I'd rather have the downtime and the ability to repair it less >expensively. > > Both points are really valid in spite of the relative selling points of >the > two operating systems. > > Rick > > > > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Dennis Moser wrote: >> >> Rick, >> >> Not all of us (N.B. Per, especially) are talking about this >> anecdotally; my computer use musically has come about from my use of >> the technology in the day job and with over 20 years of watching >> hardware/software failures for common multi-purpose tasks, an >> evidential picture starts to emerge. That's one of the reasons why we >> have to be careful HOW we state what is perceived as opinions (and why >> I disagree with Stephen on what he said to Per and about this >> discussion). >> >> It's pretty clear that you got one of the less common lemons with your >> Mac and I am truly sorry...it DOES happen. But it is also a signal >> lesson on purchasing gear: if you're going to live on the bleeding >> edge, you have to be willing to be the beta tester. And THAT can be an >> expensive place to be. That's true whether it's a PC or Mac hardware, >> an radically new automobile design or a new looper from Roland >> (thinking back to all the hand-wringing when the first RC-50 came out, >> my own included!). >> >> It's a crap shoot. >> >> Best, >> >> Dennis >> >> http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin >> http://audiozoloft.com >> http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ >> >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 4:18 AM, Rick Walker<looppool@cruzio.com> > wrote: >>> >>> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Stephen Goodman wrote: >>>> >>>> Don't take it personally Per but when you make generalized statements >>>> expect a rebuttal from people who know differently. >>> >>> Dear Stephen, >>> >>> I actually probably agree with your take on this subject more than I do >>> Per's take on it, but the reason I do >>> is because I have anecdotal experience with the subject (and because I >>> have >>> some anger about having >>> bought a somewhat lemon model of a very expensive laptop >computer.....one >>> that has been vastly improved >>> in future iterations). >>> >>> There are compelling reasons why WIN machines fail and cause heartache >>> (security, viruses, occasional lack of quality >>> control and compatibility between programs and 3rd party hardware and >on >>> and >>> on). There are compelling reasons why >>> MACs have dissimilar but nonetheless irritating reasons for avoidance >>> (overpriced, lack of easy tweakability, less access >>> to 3rd party improvements and on an on) >>> >>> Consequently, on some levels, I believe that all of our experiences >with >>> gear is anecdotal, so >>> it's informative to hear different people's take on the subject. >>> >>> >>> Which ones' solutions we chose have to do as much with us as it does >>> about >>> the hardware or software or OS. >>> >>> Personally, it gets my goat when people get really smug about >equipment >>> but, in this case, >>> I know Per really well and he has worked intensely with most systems >out >>> there in the world >>> as both a musician and as also a professional music journalist >>> (interviewing >>> artists and >>> writing intensive gear reviews) and I believe, he commands respect for >>> his >>> rigor and his intelligence >>> in writing about it. >>> >>> >>> I respect your conclusions about which OS to use and, in the same >breath, >>> I >>> also >>> respect Per's. >>> >>> My vote is for mutual respect in a discussion like this. >>> >>> with respect, Rick Walker >>> >>> >>> > >