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Thanks, Dennis, I agree with you 100% and I really do respect both yours and Per's vastly larger experience in this field than mine. I also really misspoke and should have used the word 'personal' rather than 'anecdotal'. Of course, I agree that both of your experiences (and perhaps Stephens' too, but I don't know his computer history well) are not 'anecdotal'. Forgive me for the error. I also think that a person's choice of gear has largely to do with what they want from it. As an example, Per makes the good point that because Macs are designed in house entirely that one will probably experience less down time if things go wrong. This is a very valid point and obviously an important selling point for him. For me, however, the fact that the PC world is a lot cheaper (financially, I mean , in this instance) I'd rather have the downtime and the ability to repair it less expensively. Both points are really valid in spite of the relative selling points of the two operating systems. Rick On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Dennis Moser wrote: > Rick, > > Not all of us (N.B. Per, especially) are talking about this > anecdotally; my computer use musically has come about from my use of > the technology in the day job and with over 20 years of watching > hardware/software failures for common multi-purpose tasks, an > evidential picture starts to emerge. That's one of the reasons why we > have to be careful HOW we state what is perceived as opinions (and why > I disagree with Stephen on what he said to Per and about this > discussion). > > It's pretty clear that you got one of the less common lemons with your > Mac and I am truly sorry...it DOES happen. But it is also a signal > lesson on purchasing gear: if you're going to live on the bleeding > edge, you have to be willing to be the beta tester. And THAT can be an > expensive place to be. That's true whether it's a PC or Mac hardware, > an radically new automobile design or a new looper from Roland > (thinking back to all the hand-wringing when the first RC-50 came out, > my own included!). > > It's a crap shoot. > > Best, > > Dennis > > http://soundcloud.com/usrsbin > http://audiozoloft.com > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ > > > > On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 4:18 AM, Rick Walker<looppool@cruzio.com> wrote: >> On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Stephen Goodman wrote: >>> Don't take it personally Per but when you make generalized statements >>> expect a rebuttal from people who know differently. >> Dear Stephen, >> >> I actually probably agree with your take on this subject more than I do >> Per's take on it, but the reason I do >> is because I have anecdotal experience with the subject (and because I >have >> some anger about having >> bought a somewhat lemon model of a very expensive laptop >computer.....one >> that has been vastly improved >> in future iterations). >> >> There are compelling reasons why WIN machines fail and cause heartache >> (security, viruses, occasional lack of quality >> control and compatibility between programs and 3rd party hardware and >on and >> on). There are compelling reasons why >> MACs have dissimilar but nonetheless irritating reasons for avoidance >> (overpriced, lack of easy tweakability, less access >> to 3rd party improvements and on an on) >> >> Consequently, on some levels, I believe that all of our experiences with >> gear is anecdotal, so >> it's informative to hear different people's take on the subject. >> >> >> Which ones' solutions we chose have to do as much with us as it does >about >> the hardware or software or OS. >> >> Personally, it gets my goat when people get really smug about equipment >> but, in this case, >> I know Per really well and he has worked intensely with most systems out >> there in the world >> as both a musician and as also a professional music journalist >(interviewing >> artists and >> writing intensive gear reviews) and I believe, he commands respect for >his >> rigor and his intelligence >> in writing about it. >> >> >> I respect your conclusions about which OS to use and, in the same >breath, I >> also >> respect Per's. >> >> My vote is for mutual respect in a discussion like this. >> >> with respect, Rick Walker >> >> >>