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havent had an issue with that at all using Abletons looper,then again im using mac i should also mentioned that mobius crashed badly a couple of times in conjunction with ableton so i stop using it for the meantime... Luis On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:22 PM, Daniel Thomas <danielthomas4@mac.com> wrote: >> Andy,ive been working with both lately and have pretty much down the >> basics,though Mobius is the king of loopers i tell you that little >> looper in Ableton 8 is a shy monster! > > I was pretty impressed this looper.... It was certainly easy to get >going with. But for a couple of things, it may have been my primary >looping platform > > I'll mention my issues w/ the Ableton looper here as it may save someone >else the time. Or, perhaps one you wizards will shed a light on a better >method. > > Two issues keep me from living and breathing Ableton looper. > > 1) Synchronized Multi Channel looping with the Ableton looper was very >cumbersome to set up and, though I am not sure this was the root cause, >multi channel looping with the ableton looper is the only time I have >ever seen a kernel panic on my Intel MBPRO. > 2) No EDP style multiply function--- This is integral to nearly all of >my preferred looping workflows. > > d > > On Mar 24, 2011, at 3:09 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > >> Andy,ive been working with both lately and have pretty much down the >> basics,though Mobius is the king of loopers i tell you that little >> looper in Ableton 8 is a shy monster! >> it has all the important stuff you need,record,multiply,overdub,pitch >> shift,feedback reverse and it will slave any groove you put into >> ableton perfectly in sync. >> Everythng in it is "midi learneable" you just activate the midi learn >> function on Ableton and push on your favorite foot controller >> You can also use the same looper in different tracks as well,so >> imagine having 4 or more different loopers! not only that but once you >> have a loop you like you can insert it in a scene and use it to create >> arrangments.Then you can put any after fxs adfter the looper like >> delays or reverbs etc. and they will all sync to the beat!! >> So now that you have all that enchilada going,just push record in >> ableton and start recording your performance and arrangement in >> realtime by turning things on and off etc. >> Im so busy with that at the moment that i havent really messed with >> mobius that much,there is som much you can do with the little >> looper,and everything ive mentioned is in Ableton without the need of >> x tra plugins.Ableton is also very stable and as Sjaak said is like >> looking at a mixer which makes things very logical. >> Try it! >> Luis >> >> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Andy Owens <andy@1800dialword.com> >wrote: >>> So, if all you wanted was a simple, rock solid looper, then you >would/could >>> just run mobius standalone, with no processing or mangling, just >straight >>> record audio post analog effects? >>> >>> >>> >>> Ao >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Simeon Harris [mailto:simeonharris40@googlemail.com] >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 5:41 AM >>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>> Subject: Re: Ableton/Mobius consulting gig >>> >>> >>> >>> well one reason would be so that you could post process the loops with >fx >>> plugins. or pre-process...depending on what you want to do. i host >mobius >>> inside bidule for this very reason. another cool thing about ableton (i >>> gather) is that you can create midi clips and fire them off via midi. >the >>> clip can contain controller data, or notes or program changes and be >>> quantized, so you can do some pretty cool stuff. >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 2:51 AM, William Walker ><billwalker@baymoon.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Sim Sez; "i ask, because i could set up mobius for you, but i know >nothing >>> of this ableton of which you speak" >>> >>> >>> >>> My thoughts exactly, I'm wondering what is the essential reason for >>> running one platform inside another? Mobius running in Abelton as an >>> example? or superlooper in Abelton. Is it for managing effects plug >ins or >>> more extended script commands? My embarrasing computer brain disconnect >>> issues oozing to the surface.... >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Bill >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> www.luis-angulo.com >> > > -- www.luis-angulo.com