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> Andy,ive been working with both lately and have pretty much down the > basics,though Mobius is the king of loopers i tell you that little > looper in Ableton 8 is a shy monster! I was pretty impressed this looper.... It was certainly easy to get going with. But for a couple of things, it may have been my primary looping platform I'll mention my issues w/ the Ableton looper here as it may save someone else the time. Or, perhaps one you wizards will shed a light on a better method. Two issues keep me from living and breathing Ableton looper. 1) Synchronized Multi Channel looping with the Ableton looper was very cumbersome to set up and, though I am not sure this was the root cause, multi channel looping with the ableton looper is the only time I have ever seen a kernel panic on my Intel MBPRO. 2) No EDP style multiply function--- This is integral to nearly all of my preferred looping workflows. d On Mar 24, 2011, at 3:09 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > Andy,ive been working with both lately and have pretty much down the > basics,though Mobius is the king of loopers i tell you that little > looper in Ableton 8 is a shy monster! > it has all the important stuff you need,record,multiply,overdub,pitch > shift,feedback reverse and it will slave any groove you put into > ableton perfectly in sync. > Everythng in it is "midi learneable" you just activate the midi learn > function on Ableton and push on your favorite foot controller > You can also use the same looper in different tracks as well,so > imagine having 4 or more different loopers! not only that but once you > have a loop you like you can insert it in a scene and use it to create > arrangments.Then you can put any after fxs adfter the looper like > delays or reverbs etc. and they will all sync to the beat!! > So now that you have all that enchilada going,just push record in > ableton and start recording your performance and arrangement in > realtime by turning things on and off etc. > Im so busy with that at the moment that i havent really messed with > mobius that much,there is som much you can do with the little > looper,and everything ive mentioned is in Ableton without the need of > x tra plugins.Ableton is also very stable and as Sjaak said is like > looking at a mixer which makes things very logical. > Try it! > Luis > > On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Andy Owens <andy@1800dialword.com> >wrote: >> So, if all you wanted was a simple, rock solid looper, then you >would/could >> just run mobius standalone, with no processing or mangling, just >straight >> record audio post analog effects? >> >> >> >> Ao >> >> >> >> From: Simeon Harris [mailto:simeonharris40@googlemail.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 5:41 AM >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Subject: Re: Ableton/Mobius consulting gig >> >> >> >> well one reason would be so that you could post process the loops with >fx >> plugins. or pre-process...depending on what you want to do. i host >mobius >> inside bidule for this very reason. another cool thing about ableton (i >> gather) is that you can create midi clips and fire them off via midi. >the >> clip can contain controller data, or notes or program changes and be >> quantized, so you can do some pretty cool stuff. >> >> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 2:51 AM, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> >> wrote: >> >> Sim Sez; "i ask, because i could set up mobius for you, but i know >nothing >> of this ableton of which you speak" >> >> >> >> My thoughts exactly, I'm wondering what is the essential reason for >> running one platform inside another? Mobius running in Abelton as an >> example? or superlooper in Abelton. Is it for managing effects plug >ins or >> more extended script commands? My embarrasing computer brain disconnect >> issues oozing to the surface.... >> >> Thanks >> >> Bill >> >> > > > > -- > www.luis-angulo.com >