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Ok Jeff thats what i thought after messing with this for a while,makes sense! This is exactly the same problem when syncing Ableton to my EDP,i still have to try out a software drum machine but say why does a hardware drum machine(like the adrenalinn for ex.) sync perfectly when Mobius or the EDP are masters then? are laptops not designed to do this? > > Personally, I let Mobius be the clock master when I want > to slave other plugins that are sensitive to tempo but > are not playing loops, things like delays and panners. > When I sync with pre-recorded Live clips, I > use Host Bar sync and let the host be the master. > > Jeff > > -- www.luis-angulo.com