Re: EDP and Octatrack? How to post-process loops?

[marcus kirby <marcusloops@gmail.com>]

Andy: I'm having trouble figuring out how exactly to route everything.

I currently run:

Guitar ->

       Effects-> Aux

       Main out -> Rane Mixer

               EDP -> Aux

My effects are in the AUX of the mackie, spit the outs to the rane, which has the EDP in its AUX. Essentially, run the effects in parallel on my mackie, then run the edp in parallel on my rane.

When I try to run the EDP back into the mackie, all of the samples start getting really muddy, and the stereo -> mono -> stereo doesn't sound good.

I can't figure out a good way of getting the EDP to run parallel of my effects. I need to feed aux1 to aux 2, but that isn't possible.

Anders:

I wouldn't solely be using the octatrack as an effects unit :)

Here's an example of what I want to do:

Send reverse reverb into EDP ->

Spit EDP into Octatrack

         ->add some bit crushing (track a)

         ->send track a to track b, add a filter

         ->send track b (filtered/crushed) to track c (add delay)

Just an example. But, with a sampler, I could sample the EDP loop, add effects, drop the effected loop to a new track, and repeat the process up to eight times....right?

What will allow me to do this?

On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 4:13 AM, Anders Bergdahl <anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com> wrote:

As both an EDP and OctaTrack user i would think that there is no way effects is going to replace the octa track, it's an 8 track sampler that allows you do do sequenced sound processing GREAT fun. It's more Abelton live in a box with cool effects than "just" an  effects box.

Now the Octatrack is still in Beta, OS 1.0 is due sometime before summer and they have promised a looping machine that we will probably have during Q3 so the octa is growing. 

I have not used it with the EDP yet, my plan is to route "clean" guitar to input A on the octa, EDP out to input C that way I can chose to sample either the guitar or teh EDP. Wath i will eventually do is to find away to also feed the Octatrack into the EDP.. not sure how to manage that.

Anyway, the octatrock is great looping fun on it's own. The last few months I have not toucher the EDP, every time i felt like looping i have used the Octa, and itäs also to learn the beast. 3separate LFO's (and you can even create your own shapes) a lot of great effects (the delay can work as a mini looper) pitch shift, ratechange (speed, seamless to full reverse... and all cool seqouncing to create rhythmic sound effects (you can for example trigger a sample on step 1, reverse it on step 5, pitch shift it on 9 add delay on step 11 and now you can LIVE record all your tweaks.. then you can re sample the result to a new track, record something else on the tweaked track and be surprised by tha sound.. the octatrack is very much an instrument in it self, much like the EDP. 

I have a few posted experiments on soundcloud featuring the octatrack as a live looper.

This is the latest track (i cheat on this one by having a drum sample looped, i have tweaked it a bit) all the rest is live looping and sound manipulating.. (it became a instrumental version of Spoonful, the Howling Wolf classic)

http://soundcloud.com/anders-bergdahl/a-spoonful-of-loops

There are a lot of other track there as well (with no prerecorded loops), 

So Marcus get an Octatrack !! It's a STEEP learning curve and sometimes frustrating, but in my opinion worth it.. 

Anders

> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 09:19:14 +0100
> From: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: EDP and Octatrack? How to post-process loops?

>
> hi Marcus,
>
> hmm...to achieve *exactly* what you asked there,
> what you'd need is
>
> Guitar -> Effects -> EDP -> Effects
>
> ;-)
>
> If you want to resample the effected loop it's
> possible to use a mixer and re-route the post fx
> back to the EDP. (or route the edp o/p to the input of the pre-fx).
>
> Has the advantages that you can re-process as many times as you like
> (while saving the original),
> you can seemlessly resample(which is awkward otherwise)
> ...and cost wise you'll have plenty of
> cash left over.
>