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On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 7:12 PM, marcus kirby <marcusloops@gmail.com> wrote: > Per, thanks for the info. I found another thread where you explained how > to > set mobius up; I'm going to give it a try! Cool, good luck! Since you want to incorporate remix style editing in Live I guess you want to run Live as the sync master. Then (if on Mac) you should make sure you use the Mobius VST and not the Mobius AU because Host Sync is broken in the AU version. If you want to use Mobius as the sync master (less click track feel and more "playable"), here is a text describing how to set up that sync. So many people kept asking this on the loopers list so I finally saved it on my hard drive to copy and paste when someone out there needs a hint. Here's a shortlist for how to set up Mobius as tempo master in Ableton Live. I'm only covering settings that matter for the synchronization here. In Mac OS X: 1. Open "Applications/Utilities/Audio MIDI Setup.app" 2. "Window/Show MIDI Window" 3. Double-click the icon "IAC Driver" 4. In the window "IAC Properties", make sure at least one IAC Bus port is enabled. 5. Close the Audio MIDI Setup. In Ableton Live's mixer window: 1. Open Mobius plugin on an Audio Track. 2. In this Audio Track's "Audio From" slot, select "A-Return". 3. If you intend to use multiple parallel Mobius looper output tracks: Create as many audio tracks in the Live mixer as you want to use separate outputs of Mobius looop tracks (maximum 7, since the first track that hosts the Mobius plugin will provide audio output from Mobius track 1). 4. Set them all to "Monitor = In". 5. For each one of the Live Mixer tracks you have to hold down the mouse inside the slot under the "Audio From" header and chose the appropriate Mobius output track. 6. At the left top corner, enable the box named "EXT" to tell Live that it is to work in slave sync mode. 7. Set up Audio Tracks that fetches the "Audio From" from your "Ext. In" (which is the Apogee) and the matching Apogee input. 8. Let these input channel's "Audio To" slot remain set to "Master" but tweak a full send by the "A" knob to "Return Track A". 9. On "Return Track A" go down to the slot named "Audio To" and select the Audio Track that you opened the Mobius plugin on. Under that slot is a second slot. Let this second slot remain targeting "Track In" (on the Mobius track. This means the audio input will be looped on Mobius Selected Track, making it possible for you to use the same MIDI Note button/pedal etc for commands like Record, Overdub, Multiply, Undo - sparing you a lot of tap dancing ;-) In Ableton Live's Preferences: 1. In the Audio Tab, configure the physical inputs and outputs you need. 2. In the MIDI/Sync Tab, enable "Sync" for the "IAC Bus". Click the little triangle and make sure it is set to MIDI Clock rather than MTC (MIDI Time Code). 3. For MIDI control inputs, enable "Remote" (your APC40 and whatever MIDI In port the PMC-10 comes in through). In Mobius: 1. Open "Mobius/Configuration/Presets". 2. Under the "General" tab: "Mute Mode = Start", "Round Mode" enabled, "Interface Mode = Loop". 3. Under the "Switch" tab: "Switch Quantize = Cycle". 4. Under the "Synchronization" tab: "Sync Mode = Out", "Mute Sync Mode = Send Stop/Start stop clocks", "Out Sync Realign Mode = Retrigger Loop". 5. Also under the "Synchronization": Set the Minumum Tempo and Maximum Tempo to a range that covers your playing (I use Min=61 BPM, Max=120 BPM). The blessing of this is twofold:(1) It allows you to also start with an extremely short first loop or an extremely long first loop and still get the calculated tempo (sent into Ableton to hook up with) within your show's convenient tempo range and (2) no tempo dependent effect plugins will fuck up because they can't coup with a sudden extreme tempo. 6. Open "Mobius/Configuration/Global Parameters" and make sure "Monitor Audio Input" is off (not ticked). 7. In "Mobius/Configuration/Track Setup", make sure all tracks fetch signal from "Plugin Input Port 1" (you have to select first "1" at the upper bar of eight tracks and then adjust the drop-down menu down left at "Plugin Input Port:". This way you set all eight tracks to "Plugin Input Port = 1"). 8. Open "Mobius/Configuration/MIDI Devices": - as "Plugin Output" chose "IAC Bus". - as "Plugin Input Devices" chose the physical MIDI In port where your pedal comes in, the MIDI pedal you want to use to control the looping in Mobius (this is the direct snagging I mentioned earlier, that side-steps Ableton's normal MIDI routing and makes Mobius work as smoothly as a simple EDP). You can carry out these preferences settings in Mobius standalone, if you like. If doing in the Mobius plug-in you open the Mobius plug-in's menus by right-clicking, or ctrl-clicking, the Mobius GUI window.