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Wow, man you got me pretty scared there!!! ;-) I immediately jumped away from the computer keyboard to the GR-55 and tried to make a loop in Mobius and then switch program on the GR-55. Phiew, Roland fixed that issue on this one. I can tap dance through my GR-55 patches all while Mobius plays back my recent loops through the GR-55. To recapture: I bought a $5 USB hub today and set up this system: USB cable A: - GR-55 sends audio directly out into the PA. - GR-55 sends USB audio into a laptop running the standalone Mobius looper. - Mobius on the lappy sends tempo clock as USB MIDI to the GR-55 that follows loop tempo. USB cable B: - Gordius Little Giant 2 sends USB MIDI into Mobius (for looping action commands). USB cable C: - Faderfox hand mixer sends USB MIDI into Mobius to control the mix, feedback and alternative feedback. That's it. Only three USB cables to pop in, switch on the devices and finally the computer. Very small and convenient for lugging around. As for using a full range/frequency instrument as the Stick I think the audio fidelity of the GR-55 sounds just as good as the RME interfaces I'm used to. Heck, if starting out on a budget I wouldn't hesitate to buy a GR-55 plus a pair of Genelec monitors for the money otherwise spent on the RME audio interface. Ok, you would be locked into a corner but fully creative corner to stay in for a while. Thinking about what you get with the GR-55 is close to mind blowing; all the classic Roland synth sounds, an audio interface that also works for mixing, lots of effects that can be modulated both by manual pedals/switch and MIDI or internal virtual sweeps. Internal mixer routing can be set up according to two optional schemes. One basically daisy-chains all effects while the other offer two busses that can be treated differently. Reverb and delay are handled as send/return loops. But since I'm not starting out fresh I really appreciate my RME for recording acoustic instruments through a high quality mic at 48k that are demanded by certain clients. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com www.looproom.com internet music hub On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 9:11 PM, Dust Bunnies <mech@m3ch.net> wrote: > Per Boysen wrote: >> >> BUMMMER! GR-55 can not merge MIDI! MIDI coming in over the MIDI In >> port is not merged into what is sent out through the USB MIDI Out >> port. Oh well, guess I have to buy a USB adapter then. > > Hrm, I was hoping they'd fix that on later models, but it doesn't look > like > they did. :( > > Frankly, Per, I was trying to do the same as you with the VG's USB > interface. I finally dropkicked due to the following: > > 1. I'd also tripped over the lack of support for MIDI merge. So if I > were > going to need a merge box rather than daisy-chaining the devices, I > figured > I might as well just plug the MIDI directly into the audio interface. > > 2. You can't use the VG itself as an audio interface for your computer; > it's > simply impractical. Whenever you switch programs on the Roland, it mutes > the output for *all* audio going out its audio jacks. HUGE design flaw, > IMNSHO. So if you're looping on the computer and need to switch patches > on > the VG, there's suddenly a half-second mute of everything including the > loops you've already recorded. Hell, even if you're merely using nothing > more than a reverb or delay plug-in, you're going to hear a big gap in > the > tail as you switch patches. > > 3. I found that the timing felt "tighter" using the S/PDIF output into > the > computer. I perceived the USB output as being a bit loosey-goosey, > almost > as if there were a bit more latency added there. I'd imagine that may be > because of the digital clock sync via SPDIF. Or it could have completely > been a perception and bias thing. I dunno. > > Regardless, when I discovered I needed to use two cables regardless > (either > MIDI + USB, or MIDI + S/PDIF), I decided to chuck the USB. Of course, > YMMV, > but you may want to compare USB audio against merely running the S/PDIF > directly into your Audiofire to see which you prefer. > > --m. > >