Re: Copyrighting Improvised Music > stealing or being inspired..

[Petri Lahtinen <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com>]

Mark, this is not a post your family should read

:-D

but on the more serious note, if copyright means,
in Finland, that you cant sell no more than 20 of your OWN songs
from your own website, I cant be part of that kind of organisation.

I dont see any reason on that kind of limiting?

It is not a serious problem for me, but I can see it is,
to a person who really TRIES to make a living on his/hers own music,
for example way Matt Stevens has done, and has done good.

http://mattstevens.bandcamp.com/album/relic

But even Matt is copyrighting with CC and I KNOW he's a clever guy

:-)

-Petri-

2012/1/23 mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>

This is not journalism Per, this is from Aishas website. As someone who was ripped off by Maddy, she was pissed off enough to do a little digging and find any crap she could find.

I have to admit I've always been a bit of a fan of Madonna, and Im a bit surprised and disapointed that she was sued by all these people and didnt fess up and give credit where credit was due... her being a major star an all, not like she couldnt aford to pay...
BUT..
Bjørk does exactly the same thing, nicks things form the coolest hot shit around and pretty much claims it as her own, and you know what..? I think thats just great! Thats what pop music is all about!!!
There is a logical fail of course between the ethos of sampling and stealing, that still hasnt been completely understood or figured out, which is the reason I started this thread in the first place, I find myself in a position where the "right thing to do" is the wrong thing! If I dont just give my music away, Ill lose my job!! (or at least the bit of my job that I enjoy, that is film-music)

But what really ticks me off (Im ticked off again Bill.. Grrr Be afraid) is...
IS THIS THE FIRST TIME PEOPLE GOT THAT ABOUT MADONNA?????
Im mean... did she REALLY "steal" all those photo styles shown at the start of the article???
Are people nowadays totally unaware of who Jane Mansfield was? Or Marylin Monroe..
These were ICONIC and REALLY F***ING FAMOUS photographs that Madonna was "stealing". I dont call that stealing I call that honouring or maybe parodying...

You know, we are, (as YouTube gazing, meme, following, media savvy) cool kids of the 21st Century supposed to KNOW these genres and styles, its called POP CULTURE.

Madonnas music is, and has alwasy been about using the music she hears right now, playing in the clubs, grabbing the icons and styles of the 20th Century,, mixing in her pseudo femmy riot grrrl bravado, and lightly coating it with dubious meaning and messages from her catholic guilt background...

Shes not as clever or as experimental as Bjørk, sure, but she is what she is, a product of the money factory of the 80s and apparently stealing music samples just like Coldcut, Negativeland, and me... and I think shes hot as hell and I'd do her in a second..

shit.. what a giveaway..

M



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