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hey Per there seems to be an Ableton update that addresses the sync problem,how it working now slaved to mobius? any better? On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 9:36 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote: > Well, I wouldn't think you'd have to emulate that. Ableton Live and > Mobius seem to be almost identical when it comes to recording and > stacking up alternative sets of loops on several parallel tracks. > > Differences are that Live can not overdub and multiply into the same > loop (like Mobius) and Mobius won't make you manually change the order > of the loops once they are recorded (as you can do in Live). > > I spent yesterday recreating my live looping setup based on Mobius as > the tempo sync master in the new Mainstage 2.2 and it worked out > exceptionally well. During almost a month work in Live it felt like a > wonderful revelation to be back on the super fidelity that MS > provides! I have no idea why but my stuff sounds so much better when > piped out through Mainstage, guessing there must be something about > how the compressors work and how the audio engine handles summing of > audio streams. And the new multi CPU/core support was evident as a > seemingly never ending DSP power. But it seems you need to re-build MS > concerts from scratch in 2.2 to get it right and the trick to make the > new multi core handling happen is to keep CPU intensive channelstrips > without any cross talking like side-chaining or sending audio through > a bus to an aux that also receives audio sent from other > channelstrips. That is the same logic as in how you set up big > projects in Bidule, but while you have to assign objects manually in > Bidule to be taken care of by another CPU/core this is automatic in MS > 2.2. Missing Max 4 Live though, because I could set up great "swell > pedal" functionality with M4L "audio amplitude envelope follow to data > control" devises. An option totally lacking in MS (if not using a > third-party plugin like Amplitube 3 that has a good swell pedal > simulation, but to me both Sticks and guitars sound more interesting > without such tube amp/cab simulation. Well you can actually cheat up a > rather lame swell pedal in Mainstage by using the Envelope plugin, but > it's kind of somewhere on a scale between half-assed and luke warm). > So if someone can recommend an Audio Unit plugin that applies "swell > attack" to the audio signal I'd be grateful for hint ;-) > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > > > > On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 7:59 AM, Buzap Buzap <buzap@gmx.net> wrote: >> Hi Per >> >> fair enough, esp. if you use Max4Live as a crazy effect tool ;-) >> >> Personally, I actually would like to use Ableton for both live looping >> and recording. But at the moment it's just not flexible enough. >> So what I end up doing is emulating Ableton clip/scene behaviour in >> Mobius. Oh well... >> >> best regards >> Buzap >> >> -- >> Empfehlen Sie GMX DSL Ihren Freunden und Bekannten und wir >> belohnen Sie mit bis zu 50,- Euro! https://freundschaftswerbung.gmx.de >> > -- www.luis-angulo.com