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Better way is to plan your setup around latency. Actions that depend on correct timing can still be addressed with a direct control. Actions that are quantized in a looper shouldn't be assigned to Kapture either because the looper needs to know the given command a bit in advance. It's just like tuning a tempered instrument; balance the quirks to make a good enough performance possible ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Philip Conway <Philip.Conway@bristol.ac.uk> wrote: > That thing is indeed rather amazing. The only issue is that latency > builds > up with large amounts of parameters being changed but maybe that's > better on > a faster machine (my trusty but creaky six year old macbook is nearing > retirement age!). It also makes me realise that I really need to learn > Max/MSP. > > > Philip. > > > --On 12 February 2012 23:35 +0100 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I just looked a little deeper into the Max for Live device Kapture. >> This device offers instant recall. It lets you record and store >> snapshots of the whole mixer plus devices settings. And this includes >> looping plugins too! Can you see the tremendous performance power in >> this for live looping musicians? You can totally design your own >> looping interface like you want it. Simply decide on what control >> commands you want, set up mixer and plugins for that and snag a >> snapshot of it. For some snapshots you may deselect a lot of mixer >> parameters and only have the snapshot recall the looper's settings, or >> maybe just one of many loopers you are using. >> >> Snapshots can be activated in two ways. First, you mouse the drop-down >> menu of the Kapture plugin's GUI. Second, you launch an empty clip in >> Live that has the same name as the Kapture snapshot it's meant to >> activate. This gives that you can handle a very complex performance >> setup with only three MIDI pedals: Scene Up, Scene Down and Scene >> Launch. Compare that to the classic way of assigning one pedal switch >> for each function. Over here I will keep my 80 pedals (8 Gordius banks >> of 10 each) and just assign three of them for Kapture. Then I'll see >> whee this takes me. >> >> I just checked with Augustus Loop and every damn parameter in the >> looper is captured by Kapture. Finally this is opening up a way to use >> this wonderful looper plugin IRL. My issue with Augustus have always >> been that I can't press all buttons for all things I want to make >> happen at once. The EDP functionality design is easier to use but >> lacks some cool stuff you can do with Augustus. With Augustus it >> typically makes sense to keep a direct MIDI binding to the Freeze >> Button, besides this Kapture Snapshot system. >> >> Finally, you may rework your setup very quickly in a modular way. Just >> move around the live clips for different Kapture snapshots. You may >> put several rows of them in Live's Session View (the data >> spreadsheat-like interface) so that one Scene (all clips at the same >> horizontal level) will only launch these Snapshot Clips. Very useful, >> especially if you work on many projects and has an issue remembering >> the different setups. Here you can simply read it on the screen, or >> easily memorize it visually before a concert. >> >> FYI I can tell that this total recall approach for many years has been >> the base for the French software looper Logeloop as well as for >> Numerology. In those two apps "saving a preset" takes a snapshot of >> everything, just like this Kapture thing. One thing I will start >> fiddling around with now, using Augustus Loop and Kapture, is to work >> with long bows of slow speed shifts, as this looper offers >> non-quantized continuous speed/pitch shift. I did some of that on the >> album with Erdem but until this Kapture I've seen a live concert tool >> that would allow experimenting with it on stage (except for Logeloop, >> but I can't run many of my tone shaping plugins in that Max built >> looper so Live currently works better for me). >> >> Ok, signing off now. Just wanted to mention this if someone out there >> also has been looking for these kind of tools. Oh, I should mention >> that instant recall of everything is not all snappy. At least not >> according to a discussion on the Max For Live forum. Some users there >> report that not all settings change at the same time. But I'm not sure >> that should seen as a showstopper, after all Plastikman uses Kapture >> every night to coordinate both Ableton Live mix mashup improvisation >> and synced video. >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.perboysen.com >> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >> > > > >