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Re: OT Laptop recommendation needed

Hi Michael,

I'd second Per's recommendations. If I had 2500 Euros to spend, I'd get an RME interface and then buy one of the laptops that RME has tested to run with a buffer size of 64 or lower. On the RME site Macs have the best (lowest) buffer sizes, so I'd go with a Mac. You can always install Windows on it.

I think you could get a quad core MacBook Pro and an RME interface for around $2500 here in the US, but I don't what they cost in Europe. The stock MacBook Pro internal hard drives all seem to be 5400 rpm, so I'd upgrade to a 7200 rpm drive or use an external drive like Per suggested. I'd install the 64 bit version of Windows 7 and upgrade the RAM to 8Gb.

I'd like to hear what your friend ends up with and how it works out.

On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
I assume he wants to record at least eight inputs simultaneously?
That's something any modern computer would manage, given the audio
interface offers so many inputs. I never need to record that many
simultaneous inputs but I spend some time around in studios and a lot
of them use the RME Fireface 800 and tell me they love it.

Regarding operative system it seems Windows 7 may bring back Microsoft
into the game again. Windows XP was good for audio but with Vista many
users complain with less stable audio functionality.

Myself I use only Apple pc's these days. Back when I used to run
Windows on my live concert laptops - because Mobius wasn't available
on Mac OS - I still kept an Apple box for studio recordings. I have
two reasons for that choice. One is that it that it is such a
standardized platform, with the same company developing the OS and
manufacturing the hardware, so you can always find an Apple certified
repair service that can fix issues right away. I mean, the inside of a
Mac always corresponds to the specifications regarding the model. My
other reason is that I produce a lot of recordings where I kind of
compose as part of the production process and for this I haven't found
a better software than Logic, and Logic does only run under Apple's
OS. But if your friend is thinking about using Cubase I guess my
advice isn't totally relevant.

Regarding the question about USB and Firewire we have talked about
this a lot on this list in the past. Firewire is better in the way
that it is reliable all the way up to the very last bit of capacity.
USB may get flickery with increasing traffic. But with a moderate data
traffic USB does just fine. I use both here and have not yet run into
the dangerous zone of USB. For recording of eight and more
simultaneous inputs Firewire is recommendable. It's also good to
record to an external drive.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen

On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Stephen Goodman
<spgoodman@earthlight.net> wrote:
> I’m following this one as well, since I’ll be shopping up a laptop to
> combine with The Rack Unit when I get back to the US.
> From: Michael Peters
> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 5:06 PM
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: OT Laptop recommendation needed
> I need a recommendation (for a friend) for a laptop/soundcard combination
> that can run Cubase and easily record 8 concurrent tracks. That friend of
> mine (livelooping guitarist Michael Frank, some of you might know him) needs
> to buy a laptop for music lessons and recording at school (he is a music
> teacher) and wonders what he should get. He has a budget of 2500 Euros which
> is plenty I think, but what should he buy (laptop hardware, sound card,
> software)?
> He is familiar with Windows and because Windows is generally cheaper than
> Macs, we thought a Windows laptop (Windows7 64bit) is the way to go, but if
> there is good reason to buy a Mac, maybe he would consider that too.
> The laptop/soundcard should be able to easily record at least 8 tracks
> concurrently. Which soundcard is best suited (somebody suggested a Focusrite
> 8 channel card)? Is that something all current laptops can do, speed-wise,
> or does it already require a very fast harddisk? USB or Firewire?
> The package would also include a version of Cubase (which one?), a DVD
> burner, and a beamer.
> thanks bunches -Michael

Art Simon