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Jeff, you're theory is the one I believe! All electronic music with repetitions! Tyler Z On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 16:47:51 +0000, Jeff Larson wrote: > >I'm sorry, but if this is the bar we're going to set for "looping" >then just about all electronic music made since, well forever, is >looping. Or any recording that has ever used a delay pedal. Or a >sequencer. Or every awful hair band from the 80's with an Ensoniq >Mirage. Or every hip-hop record ever made. > >I'm not a live looping purist, I enjoy creative use of pre-recorded >samples and rhythm patterns, what some refer to as "dj looping". I >realize this is a slippery slope argument, but I think there is a line >between looping and studio processing that just happens to result in >repetition. For me I think it is when "live" means performed live, >but not necessarily recorded live. Editing a track in ProTools to >get a little stutter effect is not IMO looping. > >I managed to make it through that Britney song, and it isn't at all >clear that what she's doing is even looping. You could achieve the >same thing just by sustaining a note and editing out chunks of it. > >Let's take a poll, is this looping? > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMuDtfxAIKk&feature=related > >Grumpy Old Man > > > > > >On 6/19/12 10:44 AM, "Tyler" <programmer651@comcast.net> wrote: > >>It might not exist as a STYLE per se, but as a method. There are people >>(like me) who perk up whenever they >>hear the Heap sample in Jason Derulo's "Whatcha Say" repeat (like >>"what-what-what-what-what >>did she say?" or when they hear Cher "Do you believe in life after love >>(after love-after love-after >>love)." In fact, I had never heard of "live" looping until late 2011 when >>I heard this >>guy named Tim Exile on Youtube. I looped long before that though; but I >>looped in a way that pop >>artists' producers did. You may think of studio loops as "repetition." >>Well, look it up; >>all sound repetition that is done with the same sample is looping! The >>only audio repetition that is >>not looping is when the same notes are played over and over again, >>manually. But most repetition in pop >>music is done either with tape (Beatles) or with digital (Derulo). Of >>course I use >>digital; I'm a new-age musician who just started around 2009-2010. But if >>the same sample >>is copied, and then pasted again and again, that is technically a loop; a >>repetition of the same sample. >>And, as I said, there are people who perk up when they hear Britney >>Spears's voice go "I (I, I) >>wanna go (go, go) all the way (way, way)." Each sample was copied, and >>pasted a few times. >>It's still a loop; repetition of the same sample. I wouldn't be surprised >>if Looper's Delight >>vol. 1 CD (being the 90s) contained a lot of songs that sounded like pop, >>but were lesser known. With >>all the looping done in the studio. Let's just call non-live repetition >>of samples "studio >>looping." We want more studio looping in our mp3 players when we click >>links from the >>Looper's Delight mailing list! I mean, come on! It's still looping! >>Tyler Z >>On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 17:32:55 +0200, Michael Peters wrote: >> >> >>>oh I'm definitely in favor of the radio station too, and of all kinds of >>>looping. I just thought that the "closed predesigned loop" thing is more >>>or >>>less indistinguishable nowadays from the computerized way that most pop >>>music >>>is made, anyway. Maybe an interesting discussion topic - does >>>non-livelooping >>>loop music still exist as distinct method or style? not sure about that >>> >>>-Michael >>> >>> >> >