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Re: any interest in a Looper's Delight online radio station?

I'm sorry, but if this is the bar we're going to set for "looping"
then just about all electronic music made since, well forever, is
looping.  Or any recording that has ever used a delay pedal.  Or a
sequencer.  Or every awful hair band from the 80's with an Ensoniq
Mirage.  Or every hip-hop record ever made.

I'm not a live looping purist, I enjoy creative use of pre-recorded
samples and rhythm patterns, what some refer to as "dj looping".  I
realize this is a slippery slope argument, but I think there is a line
between looping and studio processing that just happens to result in
repetition.  For me I think it is when "live" means performed live,
but not necessarily recorded live.  Editing a track in ProTools to
get a little stutter effect is not IMO looping.

I managed to make it through that Britney song, and it isn't at all
clear that what she's doing is even looping.  You could achieve the
same thing just by sustaining a note and editing out chunks of it.

Let's take a poll, is this looping?


Grumpy Old Man

On 6/19/12 10:44 AM, "Tyler" <programmer651@comcast.net> wrote:

>It might not exist as a STYLE per se, but as a method. There are people
>(like me) who perk up whenever they
>hear the Heap sample in Jason Derulo's "Whatcha Say" repeat (like
>did she say?" or when they hear Cher "Do you believe in life after love
>(after love-after love-after
>love)." In fact, I had never heard of "live" looping until late 2011 when
>I heard this 
>guy named Tim Exile on Youtube. I looped long before that though; but I
>looped in a way that pop
>artists' producers did. You may think of studio loops as "repetition."
>Well, look it up; 
>all sound repetition that is done with the same sample is looping! The
>only audio repetition that is
>not looping is when the same notes are played over and over again,
>manually. But most repetition in pop
>music is done either with tape (Beatles) or with digital (Derulo). Of
>course I use 
>digital; I'm a new-age musician who just started around 2009-2010. But if
>the same sample 
>is copied, and then pasted again and again, that is technically a loop; a
>repetition of the same sample.
>And, as I said, there are people who perk up when they hear Britney
>Spears's voice go "I (I, I)
>wanna go (go, go) all the way (way, way)." Each sample was copied, and
>pasted a few times.
>It's still a loop; repetition of the same sample. I wouldn't be surprised
>if Looper's Delight
>vol. 1 CD (being the 90s) contained a lot of songs that sounded like pop,
>but were lesser known. With
>all the looping done in the studio. Let's just call non-live repetition
>of samples "studio
>looping." We want more studio looping in our mp3 players when we click
>links from the 
>Looper's Delight mailing list! I mean, come on! It's still looping!
>Tyler Z
>On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 17:32:55 +0200, Michael Peters wrote:
>>oh I'm definitely in favor of the radio station too, and of all kinds of
>>looping. I just thought that the "closed predesigned loop" thing is more
>>less indistinguishable nowadays from the computerized way that most pop
>>is made, anyway. Maybe an interesting discussion topic - does
>>loop music still exist as distinct method or style? not sure about that