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You're right that it is "endlessly time consuming" to fake a live drummer. Learning to do the programming right is only step one, then you need to set the sound right and mix it dynamically. Oh man, what time consuming activities! I'm wondering why so many people put so much time into faking something when there are loads of other just as cool drumming approaches? Just imagine a crappy 505 or 606 with edgy sound attitude! About a thousand times as easy to make good than faking a live drummer. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Buzap Buzap <buzap@gmx.net> wrote: > Hi folks > > I'd like to lay down somewhat realistic acoustic drums for song writing > purposes (pop ballads, funk, latin, world) in home recording environment. > Currently, I program drums in Logic Pro. I also have an acoustic drum > set at work where I can play basic drum grooves that reasonably ok. > However, I don't have a good sounding kit and have no experience > whatsoever with drum micing. > > My current approach is basically similar to this: > http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep10/articles/drum-prog.htm > First, I lay down basic patterns in Logic Ultrabeat. Then, I tweak the > timing in piano roll. Last - and this is the most time consuming part - > I tweak velocities, create ghost notes, rolls in HyperEdit mode. > > How should I proceed next? > My current thoughts: > > A. > Get a real hi-hat machine + snare, set them up with mics. (e-drum > cymbals never sound realistic enough for me, don't like snares on > e-drums either for funky stuff). > For the rest, use e-drum kick pedals, pads etc. > > B. > Go the software road (i.e. Superior Drummer) and dive deeper into drum > programming. > > With drum programming, I can get fairly realistic results. I'm very > flexible, can start with basic patterns and can refine/change things > over time. However, the process is time consuming & seemingly endless... > > With real drum set, there is the beauty of playing immediately the right > groove with a gut feeling. However, the home recording environment > (space, neighbours) and the mic set-up can be tricky. > > I know the best solution is to get a real drummer in a studio > environment. But laying down stuff quickly (still realistically as > possible) is more important than having the perfect drum track. > > Would like to hear your experience & advice on this subject. > > best regards > Buzap >