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Re: Re: Latency in looping path

you say "card"... I am on a MacBook Pro 2112 (thunderbolt/FW800 model) no 
PCIe here! I have looked at the MOTU 828 Mk3... would get the Apollo but 
its over 2 grand! and more than I need right now!
At this point I had better come clean and mention I own and run my own 
residential studio and have been in recording land for far too long! Would 
be great if I could put my protools Mix5 rig in my pocket as I
would certainly get zero latency with that! I am just amazed that 
something so simple in these modern times is still beyond the Lap top!... 
or am I jumping guns here??!!... I hope the TC-helicon VoiceLIve3 is out 
Going back to what Reiner kindly posted to me about the issues mainly 
being within the software drivers: this I am not too familiar with. The 
MacBook Pro I have is the latest model with 16GIG of RAM ! I am not 
running any
other programs other than Ableton on it and within Ableto I literally have 
just the one audio track up and armed to the Looper plugin within it. 
Thats it!...

>---- Original Message ----
>From: Daniel Thomas <danielthomas4@mac.com>
>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>Sent: Tue, Feb 19, 2013, 5:41 PM
>Subject: Re: Latency in looping path
>You ned a low latency sound card for this work.  Once installed, you can =
>manage your latency values in the Ableton Live's audio preferences pane.
>I have had good luck with MOTU 896, 828MK and all of the RE Cards.
>Best of luck,
>On Feb 19, 2013, at 9:31 AM, info@riversonicstudios.com wrote:
>> Hi Per,
>> Thought Id get back to you to thank you and your frieds on the site for 
>> your help.
>> I have sussed the looping OK !
>> However I now have another problem: progressive latency as I am now 
>> running my main mix
>> into Ableton LIVE before it reaches the the audience! I suspect I will 
>> have to get a decent
>> audio interface rather than using the MacPros I/O Have tried going in 
>> digitally from the KORG KRONOS via
>> optical into the Mac- makes no difference. I suspect that coming out 
>> analog is the main culprit.
>> Anyway I was just wondering how any of you guys avoid this latency when 
>> running through ABLETON LIVE and
>> if a Firewire 800 unit like the MOTU 828 Mk" or the RME 800 would be 
>> the obvious solution to this problem?
>> Audio path: I run all my synths/external drums from a bus on the analog 
>> mixer into a track on Ableton either using its LOOPER plugin
>> or its straight forward auto input record function making sure of 
>> course that the track is muted once the loop plays back in either 
>> instance.
>> My mixer has a ":' alternate bus rooting fortunately that allows me to 
>> reroot the returned signal from Ableton avoiding feedback: I actually 
>> send the signal via the main bus out on the mixer and reroot the return 
>> out of the alt3/4 bus which feeds the P.A.
>> BTW please forgive my rude interuption but I dont quite understand the 
>> format of your forum yet!.. as I understand it its all via email no?
>> Thanks! Henry
>>> ---- Original Message ----
>>> From: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
>>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>> Sent: Mon, Feb 18, 2013, 10:53 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Still More Live Questions
>>> On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 11:32 PM, Jeff Shirkey <jcshirke@frontier.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> Let's say I have 15 scenes in a Live Set that I want to call up and 
>>>> use in
>>>> different songs. Song A might use scene 1. Song B might use scene 
>>>> 5--and so
>>>> on.  Maybe Song B will use two scenes--one each in different parts of 
>>>> the
>>>> song. There is no way to program my MIDI controller so that scene a 
>>>> is armed
>>>> when I hit song A's preset, correct? And there's no way to trigger 
>>>> Song B's
>>>> different scenes on a per-preset basis --or as I need them-- in the 
>>>> song by
>>>> doing that programming in advance in my MIDI controller--or is there?
>>> MIDI PC is not good with Live, you should use simple MIDI notes
>>> instead for launching scenes. To launch a scene in Live you learn the
>>> MIDI Note (a CC might work too) to the corresponding slot on the
>>> master output's column in the Session View. You can even use a MIDI
>>> Note that are part of what your controller is sending to your guitar
>>> rack when calling up a song, letting that event trigger both the
>>> guitar rack stuff and launching the scene in Live. And note that there
>>> are two options for controlling scens in Live; you may launch a scene
>>> directly or you may select the scene (to be launched by the next
>>> command). Oh, there is actually a third way (that I used myself with
>>> Live for a concert once) and that is to learn the MIDI note event to
>>> an empty scene preceding the actual scen that will start the song.
>>> This approach also needs that you assign Live's "trigger next" button
>>> to a pedal. At the gig I had this assigned both to a foot switch and a
>>> hand mixer knob.
>>> Greetings from Sweden
>>> Per Boysen
>>> www.perboysen.com
>>> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen