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RE: reducing "time to setup"--

> and as far as I can tell in Mobius you have to manually futz
> with your computer on stage in order to load a Project. This 
> breaks my rule of never touching my computer.

It is possible to load projects from scripts which you can then
run from any MIDI event.  If you're interested you would
write a script like this:

   !name Load My Project
   load "c:/Path/To/My/Project/myproject.mob"

The file path you put after the load would be the same as what
you would select with the File->Load Project popup window.

The only things to be careful of is that this will do a Global 
Reset so everything you currently have will be lost.  Put this
on a MIDI switch you're not likely to hit by accident.  Also it can
take a second or two to load everything if the project is complex so 
give it some time to settle in before you start using it.

Let me know if you need help setting this up.


From: Amy X Neuburg <amyx@isproductions.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 6:03 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: reducing "time to setup"--

This is an interesting question that I consider often, especially when
creating pure audio versions of my looped music (for listening as
opposed to live performance).

The most basic answer is: without any sort of "cheating" there is no
way to minimize the ramp-up, and for me this is, indeed, sort of the
point. The process of live looping is, one hopes, interesting in itself
for the audience to watch, as it makes them feel they are in on the
creative process. So in general they are "with" you as you do this, but
that said, I feel it's really important to use this buildup time in a
musical way as part of the composition itself. If written thoughtfully,
the initial buildup time can be really compelling compositionally,
keeping the audience wondering what's going to happen next. So my best
advice is to think carefully about each individual layer to make sure it
is in itself musical.

You can also cheat, if you use a program such as Mobius that allows you
to load pre-recorded "Projects." I have a couple of songs that use this
technique, allowing each track to enter organically by unmuting it, but
not having to spend the time actually recoding it. The two problems with
this method are: your own ethics around how much material you're
comfortable pre-recording (I figure since I am triggering the entrances
in a visible way there is still a "live" element to this), and as far as
I can tell in Mobius you have to manually futz with your computer on
stage in order to load a Project. This breaks my rule of never touching
my computer.

In putting out my songs on CD I occasionally shorten the lead-in time
if I feel that without the visual the layering is not in itself
compelling, but if you've really given each layer musical deliberation,
as I suggest above, this shouldn't even be necessary.

My way too many cents.

On 12/05/2013 3:28 pm, Rusty Perez wrote:
> Hi Andy and others,
> I've been looping for a while, song bassed looping to back my singing
> and create a fuller sound, but I find myself sortof waiting to realy
> kick in until I've built up a couple of layers.
> Could you please elaborate on ways you've found to minimize this
> "rampup" time?
> Thanks so much!
> Rusty
> On 12/5/13, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 05/12/2013 15:12, Mike Fugazzi wrote:
>>> Basically, I want to do some more complex arrangements via
>>> some stored loops so it doesn't take a minute to get into a full
>>> song.
>> You really don't need stored loops to achieve that.
>> A large proportion of the artists on this list solved this problem
>> in a whole load of different ways.
>> There doesn't need to be that "just wait till I set up my backing"
>> time.
>> Andy

Amy X Neuburg