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Re: Mobius UI Hard Crashing Party

Per I'm a bad boy then as I've not really been doing that.. Just did it 
now but I'm not sure how it would impact UI config for möbius :)

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 8, 2013, at 1:14 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
> Maybe you have not been repairing file permissions regularly?
> Recommended procedure every time anything has been installed on a Mac.
> Greetings from Sweden
> Per Boysen
> www.perboysen.com
> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen
> On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 9:55 PM, Philip Clevenger
> <phil.clevenger@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hey Mobius people - and maybe Jeff?
>> Last night I found myself in a nasty crash cycle with Mobius VST and 
>> Ableton
>> that was literally three hours of hair-pulling nightmare.
>> It began when Ableton crashed hard due to what I think was a failure of 
>> my
>> MOTU Traveler’s MIDI system. Bah. Need to upgrade that thing anyway.
>> After that - When I relaunched Ableton, Mobius’ interface was just 
>> gone. I
>> got the Mobius window, with some installed buttons, but all else was 
>> gone.
>> Trying to reconfigure the UI from scratch was brittle and nasty - each 
>> time
>> I added something to the UI and exited the dialog, Mobius would crash 
>> and
>> take Ableton down with it. This happened again and again, though each 
>> time I
>> relaunched, Mobius would seem to retain my changes - so I made some 
>> progress
>> in fits and starts this way… until I came to the specifics of the 
>> Components
>> UI - the Loop Window item was simply not there! I knew it was there 
>> before
>> because I am a heavy user, have many switches pointing to it, and was 
>> just
>> placing it onscreen minutes before. Further, I tried to access the 
>> Buttons
>> config dialog to check for the Windowing item (it was there!) and when
>> exiting that, I got another crash. Then after relaunching, when I open
>> Mobius, all my hard-won progress was blown away again. Just gone.
>> Next I did a series of clean reinstalls and experienced more of the same
>> behaviors. Many times during all of this, Ableton would crash at 
>> relaunch
>> too.
>> Then - I started working with the standalone - and found the Windowing
>> option was indeed present there… and that sometimes, changes I made in
>> standalone would propagate back to the VST. Though, not predictably, 
>> and not
>> always. And I found the standalone to be crashy as hell too.
>> SOMEHOW… over time… the missing Windowing feature *reappeared* in the 
>> VST…
>> and somehow over time, the VST UI update behavior became less brittle, 
>> and
>> somehow over time, I think I have arrived back at fully configured UI 
>> and no
>> more need to change it and no more crashy behavior.
>> But given the extremity of the situation, I’d like to understand what
>> actually happened… and given that it seems to have been massaged back 
>> into
>> place, I wonder if there is some Special Knowledge I might be lacking 
>> that
>> might have either enabled me to avoid the problem altogether or to more
>> rapidly, efficiently, and purposefully, resolve it.
>> Anybody?
>> Phil :)