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Re: Mobius UI Hard Crashing Party

Well, I was thinking that since the Mobius Component normally is
installed in the system Library there might be a problem if the
application should not happen to not be given writing permission. I've
experienced similar situations with other software in the past that
shaped up by a simple repair permissions procedure. Since then I often
try that first before going into other trouble-shooting.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen

On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 10:51 PM, Philip Clevenger
<phil.clevenger@gmail.com> wrote:
> Per I'm a bad boy then as I've not really been doing that.. Just did it 
> now but I'm not sure how it would impact UI config for möbius :)
> Sent from my iPhone
>> On Dec 8, 2013, at 1:14 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Maybe you have not been repairing file permissions regularly?
>> Recommended procedure every time anything has been installed on a Mac.
>> Greetings from Sweden
>> Per Boysen
>> www.perboysen.com
>> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen
>> On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 9:55 PM, Philip Clevenger
>> <phil.clevenger@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hey Mobius people - and maybe Jeff?
>>> Last night I found myself in a nasty crash cycle with Mobius VST and 
>>> Ableton
>>> that was literally three hours of hair-pulling nightmare.
>>> It began when Ableton crashed hard due to what I think was a failure 
>>> of my
>>> MOTU Traveler’s MIDI system. Bah. Need to upgrade that thing anyway.
>>> After that - When I relaunched Ableton, Mobius’ interface was just 
>>> gone. I
>>> got the Mobius window, with some installed buttons, but all else was 
>>> gone.
>>> Trying to reconfigure the UI from scratch was brittle and nasty - each 
>>> time
>>> I added something to the UI and exited the dialog, Mobius would crash 
>>> and
>>> take Ableton down with it. This happened again and again, though each 
>>> time I
>>> relaunched, Mobius would seem to retain my changes - so I made some 
>>> progress
>>> in fits and starts this way… until I came to the specifics of the 
>>> Components
>>> UI - the Loop Window item was simply not there! I knew it was there 
>>> before
>>> because I am a heavy user, have many switches pointing to it, and was 
>>> just
>>> placing it onscreen minutes before. Further, I tried to access the 
>>> Buttons
>>> config dialog to check for the Windowing item (it was there!) and when
>>> exiting that, I got another crash. Then after relaunching, when I open
>>> Mobius, all my hard-won progress was blown away again. Just gone.
>>> Next I did a series of clean reinstalls and experienced more of the 
>>> same
>>> behaviors. Many times during all of this, Ableton would crash at 
>>> relaunch
>>> too.
>>> Then - I started working with the standalone - and found the Windowing
>>> option was indeed present there… and that sometimes, changes I made in
>>> standalone would propagate back to the VST. Though, not predictably, 
>>> and not
>>> always. And I found the standalone to be crashy as hell too.
>>> SOMEHOW… over time… the missing Windowing feature *reappeared* in the 
>>> VST…
>>> and somehow over time, the VST UI update behavior became less brittle, 
>>> and
>>> somehow over time, I think I have arrived back at fully configured UI 
>>> and no
>>> more need to change it and no more crashy behavior.
>>> But given the extremity of the situation, I’d like to understand what
>>> actually happened… and given that it seems to have been massaged back 
>>> into
>>> place, I wonder if there is some Special Knowledge I might be lacking 
>>> that
>>> might have either enabled me to avoid the problem altogether or to more
>>> rapidly, efficiently, and purposefully, resolve it.
>>> Anybody?
>>> Phil :)