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Re: OT: Digital tape delay with hold and modulation

Ivodne, thanx for the hints. 

Both the timeline as well as the el capstan seem to lack a dedicated hold 
button, though.
What makes the DDG-1 so special is, that it's originally a DJ unit. RCA 
jacks, table unit and all. 
It's hold freezes the max 1024 sec delay and allows it to be pitched just 
like a tape, obviously using a simple variable pitch rate control (0.5x - 
This gives me a range of two octaves, which i can use to play melodies 
just with the dial on the speed of the delay buffer. Awesome.
Using the hold switch on/off in a fast manner inserts bits of original 
audio into the delay buffer aswell, which i use to create unforseeable 
surprises during improvisation. I seem to function better as a musician, 
when surprised of what i hear. 

By now i didn't find another unit like this.

Here's what i just wrote to Strymon about wnated features in one unit

- behaves like a tape upon delay time change (so basically 
pitching/speeding accordingly)
- has delay time modulation with depth and freq/time (0.05 - 20 Hz), 
capable of extreme settings - in tape mode
- has a hold button / this takes original signal to bypass delay circuit, 
while delay buffer loops indefinately. 
Buffer behaves again like tape, when modulated or delay time is changed 
- delay is digital

Anybody else on this? Thanx much!


On Dec 13, 2014, at 11:04 PM, 
Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com wrote:

> From: takas20@hotmail.com
> To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: RE: OT:
> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2014 18:02:48 +0000
> It's not that cheap, but Strymon's dTape tech emulates ever flaw in tape 
> echoing you could want - crinkle, wear, bias, wow & flutter, tape age. 
> It's on bother the el Capistan and the Timeline. Unbeleivable effect. 
> The Timeline does everything conceivable with all families of delaying. 
> I am a bit intimidated by mine to the point of not using it. Check out 
> the manual at Strymon. I think it does all these things. I'm not sure I 
> understand the mulitiplier point though, the ElCapistan is also pretty 
> good - same dTape tech but cheaper, but I can't speak for it
> I tend to use my Akai Headrush II instead because it's so simple. but it 
> isn't as good an emulation. Goes up to 20 secs in tape mode, but doesn't 
> multiply over a certain length
> I played the Catalinbread Belle Epoch but I didn't get it because it 
> only goes to 800msec
> > Subject: OT: 
> > From: jrploopers@kliklak.net
> > Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2014 17:07:47 +0100
> > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> > 
> > Slightly OT:
> > 
> > I use my fav digital delay (Vestax DDG-1) as a short interval looper 
> > (up to 1024ms), but it is slowly giving up to work, and they are very 
> > rare.
> > 
> > Does anybody have a tip of todays new pedals/ztable units (not rack 
> > mount!) for the following delay features:
> > 
> > - behaves like a tape upon delay time change (like a EHX SMMH in loop 
> > mode)
> > - dedicated hold switch (not momentary - just circles delay buffer 
> > until switched off, input to buffer switched off, no fade)
> > - delay time modulation with separate depth and speed control, capable 
> > of extreme settings, approx. from 0.05 Hz to at least 20 Hz
> > - has a separate dial for a delay time multiplication, e.g. 0.5x - 2x, 
> > furthermore if delay dial is already at 0.5x, then resulting range 
> > would be 1-4x and vice versa for the other extreme.
> > - writes slices of live signal into delay buffer at moentary buffer 
> > position, when fast on/off-switching the hol. 
> > - stereo would be nice, but mono already works with me.
> > 
> > you probably won't find much ddg-1 live examples anywhere, however, 
> > the 1980s rack mount predecessor vesta fire dig 411b is technically 
> > the same unit, though mono. But any rack unit is too big for my travel 
> > setup.
> > recently checked out the super awesome death by audio echo dream 2, 
> > but it is missing the hold 
> > switch.http://www.deathbyaudiostore.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=DBA012
> >  
> > 
> > any hints on otehr product or diy things? thanx a lot!
> > 
> > jayrope
> > ---
> > kliklak.net
> > aircushionfinish.com
> > prinzenallee.com
> > 
> >