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Re: Triple play again

The two Moogs I had access to were non-midi That was an extra option that showed up on few Moog guitars and probably fewer lap steels if any, the problem with midi on a lap steel is how it handles sounds like piano, organ, marimba etc that work best with a fretted instrument to handle the chromatics, though I must say, pitch bending a piano sound can be interesting. As far as the sustainer part of the Moog lap steel went , it was exceptional with the _expression_ pedal able to regulate the sustain intensity or sweep the built in ladder filter. The general consensus was that the actual sound of the pickups when played as a real instrument didn't have the same attack and dynamic response as typical magnetic pickups, a bit less dynamic, not really sounding like a humbucker or a single coil pickup that most people are familiar with, not bad mind you, just different and most guitarists myself included are creatures of habit, and at the end of the day, bitchin  sustainer device and all, did it sound as good or better than my other two lap steels., and the answer was no. Do I kick myself for not getting one when I did. yes and no, If I could have scored a standard model cheap Like the one I played in the Moog vid, perhaps. What I really wanted was a chambered body one made from Koa, but that would have set me back a few K. Im glad I didn't try to spend money I didn't have doing that,  I simply can't spend money on nice instruments like I once could. I wish they redesigned a single pick-up model with just the sustainer onboard as a retro fit like one can still get from Fernandes.  Not sure what will become of it. Ive heard talk of making enough parts two offer custom on off guitars on a special order basis.
On Jan 8, 2015, at 4:27 PM, Ivodne Galatea <takas20@hotmail.com> wrote:

Bill, you got to play the Moog lap steel - did you get to test the midi? If so, how was that for tracking? (also, how was their version of the sustainiac, if you don't mind)

From: wildbillwalker@icloud.com
Subject: Re: Triple play again
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 14:39:19 -0800
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Ah the GR300…... that was my first guitar synth, pre midi, tracked well. I had the GR 202 strat style guitar in white that i proceeded to modify with a center single coil pickup  a Kahler locking tremolo (My Belew wanna be faze)and later a Korean made Hohner graphite neck I bought at the NAMM show. I must say that graphite neck took care of many of the "yodeling" issues and rogue note issues that plague guitar synths, i think graphite gives a more pure note fundamental and more sustain and thus the synth engine reacts better. Mind you I have nothing to back up this claim than my own experience. I moved on to the GM-70, remember those? The first guitar to midi rack mount product,. Though the GM-70 had no sounds it was a great midi router patch bay to control other synth engines.  From that point on the tracking got a bit slower due to the introduction of midi and the associated lag time. returning to a GR-1 and later a Gr30 seemed to  trigger better with internal sounds but the midi protocol never seemed to get much faster, I found the internal program-able arpeggiator on the GR30 useful for synth and percussive instrument triggering at tempos that I could never play in real time without glitching, but Roland abandoned it as they moved forward. ive been intrigued for a while by the triple play as I never lost the desire to play lush long envelope sounds and pads that weren't meant to be triggered quickly.. Im also intrigued but the triple play's notation software and if anyone has really explored that at all??
On Jan 7, 2015, at 4:35 PM, Richard Sales <richard@glasswing.coi> wrote:

The Roland GR300 is super cool.  
I still love mine!  I never had any issues with latency etc. 
I used it on a record I'm working on now.  I really love the LFO on it… and on the old ROland synths.
Got an interface for GR-303 so I can use it with the Axon AX100 a few years ago.  Still haven't gotten around to it!
If I never slept, maybe I could get around to it!

On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 3:57 PM, David Messenger <mssngr1@pacifier.com> wrote:
He's talking mostly about the Roland GR-300. He's probably still got a couple of them lying around.


On 1/7/2015 3:42 PM, Ivodne Galatea wrote:

Metheny in one interview talked about how the guitar synths were better pre-MIDI and made reference to some model numbers in the way that people do. He was probably referring to the VOX V251 Guitar Organ.

richard sales